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Standard User dan_cornwall
(newbie) Mon 29-Jan-24 22:37:47
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Re: Partial FTTP install in an MDU?


[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
Hi jpm and taras,

Your right, that chatting to the freeholder management company is a good shout, as taras mentions, I need to get my landlord involved in this. Hopefully the management company can suggest they are happy for it to be installed and/or they might have documentation relating to the 2017 partial fibre install.

Then me and the landlord can contact Openreach and hope for the best..

Good to hear the Selley route can work if OR normal channels just refuse to listen or answer the question on the potential database issue.

Will have a think about how an earth I can concisely explain this thread on how OR have installed a bit but not all of the fibre to the building to my landlord!
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 29-Jan-24 23:13:19
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Re: Partial FTTP install in an MDU?


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Dan,

I wasn't trying to "oh well it worked for me" but more to try and avoid it laugh.

Your landlord has to be 100% behind this, which from what you say, will be the case. The Management company will be more worried how it will be serviced and what happens if somebody just leaves and not pays it . And also who pays it etc. That may affect existing contracts.

It may be better for your landlord to play dumb at this stage and say to OR "how do i get fibre into all of my mdu units?" and go from there. If you mention the cable at this stage it may confuse things. wait for the field survey and causally mention the fibre cable !
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Jan-24 05:59:10
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Re: Partial FTTP install in an MDU?


[re: dan_cornwall] [link to this post]
 
Will have a think about how an earth I can concisely explain this thread on how OR have installed a bit but not all of the fibre to the building to my landlord!

OR have already installed the fibre DP (distribution point) in the building. But then your permission will be required to run a new cable from the riser cupboard to the flat itself.


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Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Tue 30-Jan-24 10:56:51
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Re: Partial FTTP install in an MDU?


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In reply to a post by dan_cornwall:
Would I be right in thinking there is no way Openreach would install this (after the original building of the block) without a wayleave, so there must be one in place?


No that isn't necessarily the case.
Openreach already have access agreements to communual/telecom cupboards in MDU's that they serve.
They need this to upgrade/replace broken kit, even if it is just a copper DP and some copper pairs.
Getting from the coms cupboard to individually apartments/flats is a very different story.

They have changed how they deploy FTTP quite a few times in the 10-15 years that they have been rolling it out.

Speak to the landlord and speak to the management company. Ping some emails to the relevant Openreach departments. They are usually pretty good at letting you know the wayleave situation in your building.

I would only go down the emailing the CEO route after trying the normal forms and not getting anywhere. If there's simply no wayleave in place then Clive's team will simply copy/paste you the wayleave links you posted in a previous reply.
Standard User dan_cornwall
(newbie) Tue 30-Jan-24 23:20:08
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Thanks for the further advice tara, zarjaz and john. I have got my head around the extra permission that is needed now, so will borrow the summary from zarjaz to send to my landlord and the management company and send/ get them to fill in the relevant openreach forms. Will make sure I have exhausted normal avenues before i think about any email to Clive.

Thanks for the help everyone! smile Will come back to the thread and let you know if I have any success!
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