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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Tue 27-May-25 13:08:25
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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Now that April has come and gone, has anyone seen any ISPs offering 1G/1G on FTTP?

Given the high price point set by Openreach I imagine only business ISPs will be offering it.

I thought Cerberus might, but no - although they still offer the older 1000/220 service at £212.16 per month (plus a £594 installation fee). Either they haven't gotten around to updating their portfolio, or this means BTw don't offer it yet.

Nor do AAISP who use multiple wholesale networks, nor IDNet, although they do offer 1800/120.
Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-May-25 13:35:09
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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I expect as Openreach will only make this product (initially at least) available in rural areas covered by their Project Gigabit (Type C) roll-out contracts, then it somewhat may dampen the enthusiasm of any ISPs likely to offer it.

Perhaps as such it’s available in those areas on a request-type basis rather than being openly advertised on their websites etc, as that may just cause more unfulfillable requests…
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-May-25 15:12:40
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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I do understand the need for OR to understand how such a product would work in the wild, but with its high price and very limited availability it does seems a borked product. Only upload useage and the effects of it on other users would be something new.

Unless it is an xgs-pon product then it just reminds me of g.fast ... ie made sense at the dp level but not at the cab level and in the meanwhile fttp became defacto. Which will be like the xgs-pon trail next year.

So so messy


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Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-May-25 15:57:44
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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Yeah. Its evidently not a priority for them.
Standard User XGS_Is_On
(experienced) Tue 27-May-25 19:06:00
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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In reply to a post by Taras:
I do understand the need for OR to understand how such a product would work in the wild, but with its high price and very limited availability it does seems a borked product. Only upload useage and the effects of it on other users would be something new.

Unless it is an xgs-pon product then it just reminds me of g.fast ... ie made sense at the dp level but not at the cab level and in the meanwhile fttp became defacto. Which will be like the xgs-pon trail next year.

So so messy


They offered it because they had to, it was required for the public subsidy. They have no intention of selling it more widely and had no other reason to provide it.

Nothing messy about it. Nothing more interesting about it either really. Priced to minimise uptake, offered where they had to and nowhere else, they don't want to sell it.

Not comparable to anything else as just a configuration file.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 27-May-25 20:48:16
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Re: Openreach Symmetric 1Gbps/1Gbps from April 2025


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In reply to a post by XGS_Is_On:
They offered it because they had to, it was required for the public subsidy. They have no intention of selling it more widely and had no other reason to provide it.

Nothing messy about it. Nothing more interesting about it either really. Priced to minimise uptake, offered where they had to and nowhere else, they don't want to sell it.

Not comparable to anything else as just a configuration file.


I didn't realise or knew that it was a requirement for the type c contracts. But if that was the case, won't start to ask in type c areas "why can't i order OR 1G up/down ?
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 28-May-25 18:46:36
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It would presumably have to be the ISPs asking that question, if Openreach have the product on a price list and no partner buys it then they've still held up their side of the deal - they can't force an ISP to take the service, and neither can BDUK.
ISP Representative aquiss
(isp) Thu 29-May-25 13:43:46
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It's a pretty similar situation to the 1Gbps+ packages from Openreach, in that currently, most ISPs have a commercial relationship with BT Wholesale for OR packages. BTW have not released pricing/commercials or made available the 1000/1000 package.

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