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Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Tue 01-Jul-25 11:12:58
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Re: 1.6GB rollout?


[re: jchamier] [link to this post] 		 
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
In reality, you're going to be unable to find any retail ISP who sells any of these tiers, since the pricing is so unattractive. Even BT themselves don't.

You may have hit on the reason big ISP Sky Broadband has started to use non openreach networks.


Capitalism in action, if one supplier is too expensive they either drop their prices or get replaced.

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Standard User XGS_Is_On
(experienced) Wed 02-Jul-25 14:36:39
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Re: 1.6GB rollout?


[re: candlerb] [link to this post] 		 
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But possibly only in areas where they are doing government-funded rollouts (BDUK type C). It's very unclear at this stage when it might be available to the masses.

You should also note that the announced pricing for 1G/1G is very high - wholesale £100+VAT per month. If you want anything faster than that, be prepared to pay similar to leased-line prices.


The rollouts done so far in those BDUK areas are GPON and that product is sold over GPON. This isn't related to any XGSPON build or upgrade and they aren't getting first dibs on it. XGSPON and combo kit has been going in for a while now nationwide and is only waiting on cut over where it's being delivered over new OLTs due to current one being Huawei/ECI/older Adtran alongside where new line cards are necessary in Nokia kit or in some cases transceiver swap as the ports are already good to go.

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Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Wed 02-Jul-25 22:34:33
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Re: 1.6GB rollout?


[re: jchamier] [link to this post] 		 
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You may have hit on the reason big ISP Sky Broadband has started to use non openreach networks.

That's simply because Openreach network pricing is regulated, which altnets can undercut - by cherry-picking the areas they build in.

Only a tiny proportion of Sky's customers care about upload speeds. Almost all of them care about cost.

Of course, if Sky aren't passing on the cost savings (by pricing OR and Cityfibre connections differently) then it just means they pocket the difference.


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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 03-Jul-25 10:18:23
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It seems Sky pushed for CF's XGS upgrades in to their deal, so they care enough to have pushed for that. Even if its just for risk reduction on contention. 


					
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				Standard User jchamier
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It seems Sky pushed for CF's XGS upgrades in to their deal, so they care enough to have pushed for that.  Even if its just for risk reduction on contention.




I assume Sky wanted to compete with VM who are now starting to offer higher speeds than OR can, so far in nexfibre areas only.
					

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				Standard User wavehunter170
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					I've had this conversation with EE recently.



My exchange, Llandovery (SWLKD), is showing as having 1.6GB services available.



Apparently, it just requires a different piece of equipment and the exchange end of the line.



BUT, EE will only do this for new customers, not existing ones.



I have the 900 service and am paying just a few quid shy of the cost of the 1.6GB service. I offered to sign up for a 24-month contract.



But no. If I want the 1.6GB service with EE, I need to leave and come back.



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				Standard User mr_mojo
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					It's just problem a systems problem. They likely don't have a 'order new ONT on upgrade' path in their billing software as its somewhat new.
					
					
				

			
						
			

			
			

				
					

						

							
			
				Standard User ParksidePeter
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It's just problem a systems problem. They likely don't have a 'order new ONT on upgrade' path in their billing software as its somewhat new.


Surely the ISP should just order the required service. If it requires a new ONT then the supplier will take the necessary action to provide it.
					
					
				

			
						
			

			
			

					
		

	

	
	

		

			
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