In reply to a post by dieselfreakk:

<snip> (Gig2 is not available at my home), additionally the VM router it seems doesn't offer a modem mode, so i'd be force to use double NAT.

Is anyone using a replacement (for the Hub5) device that can give me a modem type connection via GIG1?

The lack of 2Gb would suggest you are not in a Nexfibre area, but will be served by cable, either HFC or the hybrid RFoG. Both of these for 1Gb will get a Hub 4 or Hub 5 (not to be confused with the FTTP Hub 5X), so modem mode is available.
I would rather have the Hub 5 as the Hub 4 is the only VM Hub with a fan, and as such, can have heat issues with dust buildup inside.

In reply to a post by dieselfreakk:

I have now begun to move to Virgin Media

For clarity, are you saying you're moving from Openreach provided 1Gbps to Virgin Media 1Gbps service just because you can't get 1.6Gbps via Openreach? if you are I think its a bad idea, for one contention on VM will be a lot worse than Openreach if no Nexfibre and you will soon regret it.

Oh.. now that i didn't know.
is this something well known?
they seem to talk up this guarantee on Wifi speed, which is of no interest to me.
What speeds are typically seen using 2.5G/10G kit in the home?

In reply to a post by dieselfreakk:

What speeds are typically seen using 2.5G/10G kit in the home?

The 2.5 or 10G LAN is only relevant to your in-house connectivity, once you go beyond that you're limited by the 1Gbps service provided by the ISP, its not just about speed, depending on what your doing latency could be a factor.

The LAN vs WAN part i understand, however i don't want to "upgrade" to 1.1Gpbs and then get 600Mbps
I understood that there was a 2.5G port on the Hub5.
Would i ever see 1.1Gbps?
Is the latency very high or spiky?

If you use the 1Gb port on the Hub 5, you will get around 940 Mb due to TCP overheads. If you want the full 1.1Gb, then you need to use the 2.5Gb port of the Hub 5. Note the Hub 4 only has 1Gb ports but still may be supplied with the 1Gb Tier.
If you do use the 2.5Gb port, then you will need a 2.5Gb switch unless you are only using a single PC with a 2.5Gb NIC. The switch should be managed as there are reports than you need to disable EEE to avoid problems.
As for contention, that's an area issue, and IMHO, not very common. I have had VM a long time, on and off, and never had any issues with the broadband supply. In any case, you have a 14 day cooling off period to test your incoming circuit.
As an aside, the Hub 5 has the 2.5Gb port, it's the (Nexfibre) Hub 5X that has the 10Gb port.

Edited by Adduxi (Thu 05-Mar-26 10:41:22)

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

if you are I think its a bad idea, for one contention on VM will be a lot worse than Openreach if no Nexfibre and you will soon regret it.

This isn't a national situaation. I'm on VM Coax in the Surrey/Hampshire border area and we don't have any contention issues. Coax cable isn't drastically different to PON in how the medium is shared, and it is quite easy to have saturation on the Openreach GPON network (maxing at 1.6 Gbps) which is why Alt Nets have deployed XGS-PON of course.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

This isn't a national situation. I'm on VM Coax in the Surrey/Hampshire border area and we don't have any contention issues. Coax cable isn't drastically different to PON in how the medium is shared, and it is quite easy to have saturation on the Openreach GPON network (maxing at 1.6 Gbps) which is why Alt Nets have deployed XGS-PON of course.

Answer me honestly James, would you switch from 1Gbps Openreach FTTP to 1Gbps VM Coax if you had both options?

I am on the gig1 tier with VM and using a hub 5.

I have my PC attached via ethernet to the 2.5Gbps port and receive 1122 Mbps to the hub and consitently achieve a speed of 1130Mbps to my PC without any slowdown/dropouts.

If you, or anybody in your house has an O2 sim then if you take out the M500 tier (516Mbps speed) then it's automatically upgraded to the gig1 tier.

I can't answer as per BT as the highest OR speed I have available at my address is 32-36Mbps download and 8-9 Mbps upload.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

if you are I think its a bad idea, for one contention on VM will be a lot worse than Openreach if no Nexfibre and you will soon regret it.

This isn't a national situaation. I'm on VM Coax in the Surrey/Hampshire border area and we don't have any contention issues. Coax cable isn't drastically different to PON in how the medium is shared, and it is quite easy to have saturation on the Openreach GPON network (maxing at 1.6 Gbps) which is why Alt Nets have deployed XGS-PON of course.

Also XGS-pon allows a higher split ratio.... 64(upto 128) compared to 32(upto 64) for gpon which makes it marginally cheaper for the wholesale operator