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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Apr-26 09:51:10
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BTw to launch 1800/220


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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2026/04/bt-who...

BTw always very slow to catch up on Openreach up to 1.8Gbps. But for up to 8.5Gbps might have to wait longer for BTw to accepted it.

I bet BTw checker will see 1800/220 by end of 2026 or early 2027. Then 8500/330 by end of 2029 or early 2030. For symmetrical might wait longer around 2035.
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Apr-26 10:27:56
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Re: BTw to launch 1800/220


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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2026/04/bt-who...

BTw always very slow to catch up on Openreach up to 1.8Gbps. But for up to 8.5Gbps might have to wait longer for BTw to accepted it.

I bet BTw checker will see 1800/220 by end of 2026 or early 2027. Then 8500/330 by end of 2029 or early 2030. For symmetrical might wait longer around 2035.


Woke up the wrong side of the bed today ? Also are you sure its 1800/220 ?

In-regards to xgs-pon we are only seeing a 3 month trail. We may see another 3 month trial if theres a siginificant issue arrising. Otherwise expect a 2026 xgs-pon release.

This trial is about comobo pon from nokia and adtran working fine and back end systems working, Also switch over from gpon to xgs-pons at the pon databases. They aleady do insitu ont swaps.

There isn't much more to test.

Edited by Taras (Mon 27-Apr-26 10:32:16)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Apr-26 14:34:53
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Re: BTw to launch 1800/220


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BTw always very slow to catch up on Openreach up to 1.8Gbps. But for up to 8.5Gbps might have to wait longer for BTw to accepted it.

If you re-read the ISPreview page they discuss why that could be. Also there are ISPs that use Openreach connectivity but don't go via BTwholesale.

The good news is Openreach are planning ahead, even if slower than we would like. The ISPs who pay BTwholesale for service will have to ask their account managers why BTw is so slow.. as it will eventually cost them business. Where I live there is still no Openreach FTTP, and the one Alt Net can't get wayleave, so the fastest I can have is 1000/115 from Virgin Media coax at the usual high price.

Don't worry about it smile

26 years of broadband connectivity since Sep 1999 trial - Live BQM


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Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 28-Apr-26 08:45:18
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Re: BTw to launch 1800/220


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You say high Virgin prices, while i can't get the prices directly, I did have a search and from what I found 1Gb/s is around £33. That is not bad if that is correct, sure it will increase at some point.
Zzoomm full price is around £48, but they do give offers.


Still not sure why the majority of people would want those speeds anyway.

Adrian

Desktop machines Mac mini pro with macOS Tahoe, also pc Ryzen powered with windows something or other.
Zooming with Zzoomm FTTP,
Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Apr-26 09:19:17
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Still not sure why the majority of people would want those speeds anyway.


Adrian you know, exactly why people will want faster speeds than 300mbits. And i've said, (even with the latest announcments) local ai models is the only reason for bog standard consumers needing faster (2gbits) internet - and thats a 2030 time frame.

We will only likely ever go to 8k60 with the tv screens - 16k won't happen because of motion sickness
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Apr-26 13:14:40
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You say high Virgin prices, while i can't get the prices directly, I did have a search and from what I found 1Gb/s is around £33. That is not bad if that is correct, sure it will increase at some point.

As an existing customer they want £99 from me for that service, I can get a discount to about £70 for agreeing to stay for 3 years. My 300 Mbps is £70 now.

These older companies have differnet pricing for new and renewing customers frown

26 years of broadband connectivity since Sep 1999 trial - Live BQM
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 28-Apr-26 17:28:04
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Still not sure why the majority of people would want those speeds anyway.
At this point no amount of people giving their reasons is going to convince you, so you'll just have to remain unsure for eternity. Take some happiness in the knowledge that they're subsidising the slower services.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 29-Apr-26 08:21:56
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In reply to a post by zyborg47:
Still not sure why the majority of people would want those speeds anyway.
At this point no amount of people giving their reasons is going to convince you, so you'll just have to remain unsure for eternity. Take some happiness in the knowledge that they're subsidising the slower services.
Every time in the last 25+ years when a new speed tier was released someone would post asking who would need that speed. Who now could imagine being able to deal with a maximum 2Mb download and 256Kb upload? Yet people were questioning who would ever use those speeds.
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 30-Apr-26 15:47:32
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Adrian you know, exactly why people will want faster speeds than 300mbits. And i've said, (even with the latest announcments) local ai models is the only reason for bog standard consumers needing faster (2gbits) internet - and thats a 2030 time frame.

We will only likely ever go to 8k60 with the tv screens - 16k won't happen because of motion sickness


I did say the majority, those that just do a bit of streaming, maybe browse the net, a couple of emails or messages. Maybe even chat using WhatsApp. Even most gamers will be fine with lower speeds, just take a bit longer to download the games.

I doubt the majority of people even know what a local Ai model is.

Adrian

Desktop machines Mac mini pro with macOS Tahoe, also pc Ryzen powered with windows something or other.
Zooming with Zzoomm FTTP,
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Thu 30-Apr-26 15:49:37
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As an existing customer they want £99 from me for that service, I can get a discount to about £70 for agreeing to stay for 3 years. My 300 Mbps is £70 now.

These older companies have differnet pricing for new and renewing customers frown


That is a lot. I don't think I would pay that, I would stay on FTTC than pay that if there is no other option. That is if you can get FTTC. Failing that, then I would go for a mobile network

Adrian

Desktop machines Mac mini pro with macOS Tahoe, also pc Ryzen powered with windows something or other.
Zooming with Zzoomm FTTP,
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