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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Oct-12 01:23:27
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Re: Orange/EE Speed dropped to 10% *DELETED*


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Oct-12 01:26:51
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Re: Orange/EE Speed dropped to 10%


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Sorry, I misread your router stats frown . Yes, you can get only about 2 Meg.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 28-Oct-12 12:34:56
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No problem smile

That's the weird thing why it should drop from 2 to 0.2Meg frown


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 28-Oct-12 13:02:54
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In reply to a post by aceooo2:
Excellent, thank you all for your help. Here are my stats below:-

ADSL Status
This page shows information about your ADSL connection if applicable.
Status:
Configured Current
Line Status --- SHOWTIME
Link Type --- Interleaved Path
Operation Mode Automatic G992.5(ADSL2+)
Data Rate Information:
Stream Type Actual Data Rate
Upstream 805 (Kbps.)
Downstream 283 (Kbps.)
Defect/Failure Indication:
Operation Data Upstream Downstream
Noise Margin 6.3 dB 7.5 dB
Line Attenuation 37.6 dB 64.5 dB

Indicator Name Near End Indicator Far End Indicator
Output Power 12.6 dBm 0.0 dBm
Fast Path FEC Correction NA NA
Interleaved Path FEC Correction 1926 19
Fast Path CRC Error NA NA
Interleaved Path CRC Error 0 2
Loss of Signal Defect 0 0
Fast Path HEC Error STR NA NA
Interleaved Path HEC Error 0 2
Error Seconds 420 2
Statistics:
Received Cells 80628
Transmitted Cells 15220

The BT Test was:-

Download speedachieved during the test was - 0.22 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.1 Mbps-0.25 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 0.25 Mbps

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.8Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps


Will
From your router stats the most critical reading the (Downstream Line Attenuation 64.5dB) is a very high reading, indicating your connection is very sick or you have a very long line or both.
You have to reduced this reading to increase your connection speed and to maintain line stability.

Check the internal wiring to the phone sockets, disconnect wire connection number 3 at each socket, only connections 2 and 5 required now. Connection number 3 is the old electro-mechanical bell wire and can cause interference with your ADSL broadband connection.

http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/wiring_info.htm

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wiring/UK_telephon...

http://www.rob-r.co.uk/other/UKphonecatwiring.htm
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 28-Oct-12 21:40:33
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Thanks, I'll attempt that smile

Will
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(deleted) Sat 03-Nov-12 16:33:56
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Hi again smile
I've tried your suggestion E7, and there is no bell wire number 3 in the master socket. I've also changed the phone filters to completely new but to no avail. frown
I connected the router straight into the socket and tested my laptop but the speed was still the same.

I think I've tried everything I know so it will have to be a phone call. Any other suggestions?

Thanks for all your help.

Will
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 16-Nov-12 05:34:26
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We suffered the same thing, coinciding with the installation of the new cabinets and main cables throughout our village.
We used to typically get 0.6MB download, now down to 0.2MB and barely navigable in the graphic-intense software environment of the current internet.

I've spoken to Orange and BT about this and each refer me to the other for the cause and resolution. Of course, the new cabinets and the slower speeds also coincided with the marketeering of the new BB packages (with higher prices). I quizzed one BT salesman about what speeds we would typically be getting under their proposed package (of up to 16MB) and I was given the runaround with the same old excuses of 'you could get up to 16MB per second'. When I asked what we would get on average, based on our current connection, he mumbled around 'distance from exchange' until he finally admitted that we would only a maximum of 2MB.

I've also quizzed the engineers, who were installling the cabinets, about the sudden reduction in speed and they reacted much in the same way as those dodgy car mechanics who don't want to explain why they're charging you for work not done/needed, and dismissed it as 'it depends on how far away you are from the cabinet', as they quickly walked away.

Yesterday, I looked into BT's and EE's current packages for ASDL broadband and neither will be able to offer the speeds they're selling; in fact, based upon a 2MB connection (which seems to be the limit for a lot of people), the leeway within the smallprint ('may be between 1.5 and 2MB higher or lower than your estimated speed') shows that they're trying to tempt people into buying packages that will not be delivered, and that based on a current 2MB connection, you're not likely to get above 0.5MB based on their current delivery.

To be honest, I think the speeds were purposely lowered to encourage customers to buy costlier packages that they'll never receive.
So, my suggestion is that we're being scammed - as simple as that.

Edited by deleted (Fri 16-Nov-12 05:35:25)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Nov-12 12:57:09
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Re: Orange/EE Speed dropped to 10%


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Are you talking in Mega bits per second or Mega Bytes per second?

The ADSL modem will tell all, so if a provider is playing fast and loose it is easy to see this.

If you are talking of the move up to 8Mbps ADSL to up to 16 Mbps ADSL2+ then yes distance to the exchange is still very much the limiting factor, and some people do go slower with ADSL2+ because of a variety of reasons, most of which can be solved by forcing the modem to use ADSL only mode, or a decent ISP support team. ADSL2+ can go slower if your extension wiring in the home is not 100% ideal for DSL broadband.

The advertised headline speed providers were forced to lower them in April 2012 by the ASA and BCAP

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 16-Nov-12 21:33:33
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You should be able to get a better idea of speeds you can get if you put your phone no. in here: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome

Better still give us your router stats and we will tell you.

You keep talking about speeds in terms of Bytes ("B"). BB speeds are measured in bits ("b"), Which did you mean?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User flippery
(member) Fri 16-Nov-12 21:57:20
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
You should be able to get a better idea of speeds you can get if you put your phone no. in here: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome

Better still give us your router stats and we will tell you.

You keep talking about speeds in terms of Bytes ("B"). BB speeds are measured in bits ("b"), Which did you mean?

if anyone looks for speed to report on forums, normally taken from a router or speed tester. Are these likely to be in different formats, unlikely.
Take as face value, many, like me, just type in Upper or Lower case. Meaning the same to us.
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