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So if you are a console owner and it the fortunate position to own Both then it looks like the Playstation 3 version is the one to get because of the tie in with Steam and the fact that you can play against PC gamers.
Strange when you think that Gabe Newell about 18 months ago was basically saying the Playstation 3 was a a piece of Junk and it had terrible architecture and the 360 was a much superior console in terms of easier developing.
Now about turn he thinks the Playstation 3 is so so Cool................ 
Im going to get this game because i loved the previous Portal,How long i actually play it depends on what exactly Multiplayer is and my attention span of a Gnat 
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Edited by time2die (Thu 07-Apr-11 13:13:24)
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I'm fairly sure hes saying that now as valve have managed to get more functions of steam on the PS3 than microsoft would allow (that is pretty much what hes been saying). From a development point of view the 360 still is easier to develop for however gabe/valve has been expressing concern over how much control happens on xbl, i.e minimum pricing for dlc.
Saying that no offence to PS3 people but as a PC player I wouldn't want to play with a PS3 player, that controller sucks, some of the levels in portal 1 got real tricky with portal placement, portal 2 looks a lot faster paced...
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Portal 1 was good... until it transpired that you had' to do some real funky stuff to complete a level.
Personally, it's not a game that I'd even consider completing.
There would be no chance that I'd stand a chance with it, but it might be worth a go anyway. Eventually.
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Was mostly easy, and fun whilst making you feel skilled at doing it.
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It looked pretty good in the advert that was shown on TV a couple of times. Rather tasty looking in fact.
Won't be getting completed here if I got it. Stopped playing Portal 1 after seeing the vids on the web. I couldn't do it lol. I'd have to start P1 all over again, have had a re-install of Steam a good while back.
May see how it goes and try the P2 demo first, if there is one. I'm not as skilled as you or T2D... or any of the newbs either, but never mind. Still enjoy the games anyway. SP mainly.
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I'm not skilled mate but i do like a good puzzle game such as Portal and Portal 2,they are not the kind of game that i play for ages but it makes a change from my constant FPS addiction.
I am however very curious as to how the online mode works in Portal 2 and the fact that the playstation 3 version lets us play against PC/MAC players..........That part intrigues me and i am looking forward to the game a week next Friday.
Not going to be using my normal gaming site Shopto.net this time as i have accumulated quite a few games over the past year or so and trade seems to be the better option with Portal 2 ,L A Noir and Brink.
Hope you get it Guesty as it will be a blast playing with someone of here 
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Hopefully this is the first of many that are cross platform MP enabled. The constant fracturing caused by multiple systems is not a good thing imo.
Not sure I'll be getting it though, just couldn't get into 1.
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Prepare to get raged because your on a lower platform.
/muwhhahahahahha
xD
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That's Fighting talk Gzero............Look forward to the challenge
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You'll have to wait a bit, as I'll be waiting on that steam sale.
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Sounds to me you just **** your pants mate Be waiting a long time for the price of Portal 2 to drop.......Christmas at best ?
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Better take it to Boxing day sale, these are going to take a while to wash.
Anyone know what the server front is going to be like? p2p or left 4 dead style?
I tried to play Left 4 Dead 2 recently, but it's annoying as I couldn't find a server that would last a level and didn't lag like nuts.
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If it has timed rounds, I admit that you'd beat me - but if it is a versus, I'd have to say that *I won't win!
Remind me a day or so before it's released, and I might get it. I may give that a go. Could be a laugh. 
*Guesty looks out white flag.
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You will never get console vs console play, as for console vs pc i'd say its moot as PC users will just roflstomp console owners into the floor, even by microsofts own admissions.
I like my opposition to put up a fight If it comes to relying on survival on them i'd like them to be using a control form that doesnt lag and drag about the screen
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Not interested in console v console play Falcon,I'm intrigued at the fact for the first time in the Playstation 3 history we get to play against other PC/MAC players.
Infact i think its the first time in Console History that this has happened ..Cross/Platform ? 
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Lol Gzero..........made me
Would not be surprised if both yourself and Guesty hammered me and my reputation [not that i have one] gets extremely tarnished.
Basically i will have every PC gamer on here now hunting me down for a little 1 on 1 in portal 2 Multiplayer.................That's if there is such a thing and its not just online co/op play................Anyone know anything about the online multi player part of Portal 2 like whats it all about Alfie ?
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Nope.
360 did it years ago, they abandoned it cause PC users crushed console users and they could never balance it on an even playing field.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/256749/news/pc-...
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Its coop puzzles, no deathmatch or anything like that, portal isnt that type of game.
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PC users will just roflstomp console owners into the floor, even by microsofts own admissions.
At the moment, definitely! Perhaps not so much with a game like Portal 2, although that depends how the MP works I guess.
But the more it's done, the more likely that Sony and MS will devise decent controllers, it's more than possible if they really wanted to. And no, not going to be things like the kinect any time soon, way to much lag involved in that kind of system!
Mixed system MP could be a good thing for gaming, done right.
If only for showing why everyone should use PC's... /runs
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It can't and will never be done right. PC will always hold the upper hand.
Keyboard and mouse, better hardware = smoother frame rate, simpler network structure (consoles go through networks with added security to prevent various things happening to protect the consoles integrity) means better latency, etc.
These no doubtly microsoft realise then give up on, shadowrun on the pc had its controls nerfed in a sense, the sensitivity on the mouse was quite slow and settings were capped, PC users still crushed them though, the controller couldnt keep up with the speed and accuracy. No controller can ever rival a mouse and keyboard, its just never going to happen.
I don't see cross platform multi being anything more than a gimmick, as history has told before the PC will win out, leaving console users upset at how unfair things are, devs who try to do what microsoft did and nerf the PC version to balance it will be met with PC user backlash, those who buff it to give console users autoaim will end up with said console users using autoaim permabanned from servers because on the PC autoaim = aimbot = hacker = ban, so you end up with console user backlash that theyre being banned and stomped.
Portal 2 might just pull it off because its not an FPS in the sense of a shooter, its FPS Puzzle, the coop requires people to work together and solve the puzzles and get to the exit, portal 1 had some quick reaction time moments, stuff which i dont think i could have pulled off as quick with a controller, hence why i said i wouldnt want to play with a ps3 user for it.
Edited by deleted (Mon 11-Apr-11 19:01:28)
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Fair enough, didn't think about the network structure, I see what you are saying.
I really should get rid of my 360, it'll never get used if all we have to work with are controllers.
I remember back in the late 90's when MS started talking about the future of gaming being closed box hardware, a PC you couldn't upgrade, do anything with. I thought then it was a ridiculous idea. I still do.
I still think they could vastly improve the present controllers if they really wanted to, some sort of 2 glove system, left for a set of keys, right for a track mouse of some sort, so you can still lard out on the sofa. Heck, they did it in 1989 with the Power Glove controller with the tech back then (although it didn't do much!). I guess they won't unless they come as standard with the system, maybe the next gen of consoles will perfect something.
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You won't get consoles embracing keyboard and mouse any time soon because they can't turn a buck off a keyboard and mouse when theres an entire market of gaming grade stuff run by some serious players (logitech, microsoft, razer, saitek, etc) with top notch quality and a ton of features and regular grade stuff from as much as £1 for a keyboard.
They won't go down that route because they'd miss out on charging £30-40 on a controller.
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/Psst... Over here, there IS a way to escape the dreaded Consolers - it's called "Steam"..!!
*Guesty guides the 'Dis-illusioned' and ''Real" Gamers to the far superior Temple_Of_The_K/B_And_Mouse!
Bow before its goodness, peoples.
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Oh yeah the [censored] Shadowman ? First time for Playstation 3 though Falcon..
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It can't and will never be done right. PC will always hold the upper hand.
Keyboard and mouse, better hardware = smoother frame rate, simpler network structure (consoles go through networks with added security to prevent various things happening to protect the consoles integrity) means better latency, etc.
**Guesty bows to the Much Revered, Lord Falcon, and hopes he will grant him a "gemme o' summat? C'moan, I've just cancelled a red-hot Reversi game that was playing just to hear your rightcheous preachering to Da Faithful PC Gamers?
Could you even review a game and let me read it? Whilst you frag of course. It's the only way!?
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That's what i thought and that means its down to Brain size or who has the biggest Brain T2D ,Guest,or Gzero............Or even Spook and Yourself Falcon.
So its Puzzle solving as i expected,should prove a laugh anyway
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Not unless they come up with a new port to use a new piece of hardware that only THEY have the first attempt at a ground-breaking system of control.
Making a game muti-platform, using one disk for ALL systems - them would be 'the way'.
Need sleep. Now.
Night folks.
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Nah shadowRUN, its based of some book series or DnD type game or something, i believe it had a SNES predecessor or something, they turned it into TF2 style game where you picked a race then a class and different races had different abilities and different classes have different abilities so you mixed and match or something. Didn't get my interest at all, all i know is i tried the demo on 360 and on PC and on PC they slowed the aiming down and did a few other daft tweaks.
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If you are lucky you might get a review out of it .
Depends if i deem it worthy enough to review (i.e its [censored] or if it people say its [censored] and it isn't).
I can give you a starting point - i'm concerned about length ;O i suspect i'll be spending more time driving myself insane earning potatos during this ARG thing. IF there is any truth to this 15th rumour for whatever it is i suspect its linked to the potatoes and getting potatos on your steam profile, these require you to do some mad skills in the games featured in the pack, i've got 2-3 so far, i suspect however though that it'll require all 13 games, in which case i'm SOL cause i don't own all 13 games, i passed on some of them for various reasons. But still, i'll get the potatos on the ones i own.
In other news its time for T2D to buy a new graphics card and get that PC up to gaming spec:
Also of note for time-keeping enthusiasts: the calendar experts here at Valve have crunched some numbers, and have conclusively decided on 7AM EST, April 19th, 2011, as the exact moment that Portal 2 will be available on Steam.
From the Portal 2 steam group
Edited by deleted (Tue 12-Apr-11 04:47:40)
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Not Shadowrun but Shadowman..............Thats what is the name of the game listed in your link about cross/platform game and PC people owning Xbox owners with the game Shadowman.
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Preload, just double click from your game list and it should give you the option to preload
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Like i said Falcon you wont be playing it this week but it looks like you might be playing it before the UK release date of the 22nd so im wrong on that count if this happens.
Seems its unlocked on the 19th which is the American release of games which is next Tuesday when ours are Fridays 22nd,
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TBH I very much doubt this week, its part of the ARG and the ARG is a mind flayer, i so far have 16 out 32 known potatoes, this count of potatoes could rise even more, i'm missing 2 games from the potato pack, soon to be 1 game missing .
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TBH I very much doubt this week, its part of the ARG and the ARG is a mind flayer, i so far have 16 out 32 known potatoes, this count of potatoes could rise even more, i'm missing 2 games from the potato pack, soon to be 1 game missing .
Sorry you have completely lost me [ potatoes ]
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Lost me too! But I am still hoping for an early release - the pre-load is certainly early compared to many when you can only pre-load 1-2 days in advance of the release...
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22 out of about 40ish give or take potatos
1 game missing, hopefully gonna fill tonight then the rest of the potatos are within grasp, gonna pass on a couple of them though, getting all of them will be an impossible task.
I would love to say what these potatos are but noone knows.... :|
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What you smoking Falcon .........I wont some
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Potato skins..... ;D
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28 potatos, ARG just exploded with a rush for potatos 35 know, final rush is close, it might just happen this weekend, maybe, maybe not, only one way to find out.....
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Mission accomplished, all 36 potatoes + golden locked and loaded, time to sit back for 5pm
http://88.191.120.152/countdownto15.html (unofficial countdown set up by someone from the arg irc chan)
http://www.aperturescience.com/a/b/c/d/g/h/abcdgh/
Official came out of the ARG, who knows what is gonna come out but if something does then POW....
All potato and no sleep make firefalcon sleepy.....
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Lost me as i have already said 
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Potato advice? I have a few of them, but do not want to buy a new bag . Probably will, however, you can never have too many Potatoes.
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http://www.aperturescience.com/glados@home/
BUY POTATO GAMES, EARN POTATO, RAISE THE BARS
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No thanks ..............£27 for the package
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You're just jealous ;D (just kidding)
If you own any of the games you just earn at least a potato and it should count and stuff.
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I only like King Edwards
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So i guess you will be getting the game then falcon and may be when you have time you can look me up when i get the PlayStation 3 version next week and we can play a little co/op.....................Id.............trancematic.
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Did i mention i count monday the start of the week , we'll get it over the weekend im sure, people are working out the best way to proceed and how the counter works.
Current knowledge is that the projected time is NOT linked to the bars, that or its on a limited update timer.
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Check the full-stop at the end, ...want to buy a new bag. <-- L@@K in my post.
Portal 2 pre-ordered - Potatoes left as I own some of them already. A lot. Loaded SMB though.
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The question is though, do you own the infamous gold one? ;D
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN the timer is flying down
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Pah, does the true Gaming Guru even have to ask?! 
No, Gaming-Guru, Guesty does NOT have the afore-mentioned goldy-game... Is it as Shiney as they say??
Not even nearly tempted. I DO have a spare Portal [1] however.
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I had a look this morning and at 8:00am (ish) it was sat on 26 hours (ish). Moving it further with only affect the americans and people who can stay up all night (not me). I guess if all of the challenges got done it might be available by about midnight, but as I say, doesn't help me. Still, tomorrow night - Can't wait!
Got about 5 potatoes I think. Couldn't be bothered with Killing Floor. Did audiosurf. Bought Rush and got that one. Bought Defense Grid and have the first 3, but had to go to bed. Will collect the other 3 from that tonight. Don't think Iw ant the other games!
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Yeah i'm calling BS on valve.
Before people go on about no guaranteed release early etc, i'll state im out right aware of this.
Basically the challenge put infront of people (after all the hardcore puzzle solving for weeks on end requiring the purchase of the "potato" pack to get the clues and such), was a simple one, play games raise the bars and the timer decreases. At first this everyone thought requires a bit of coordination but do able, thats until we maxed the first game and shaved 50mins off, then 40mins, then another 50mins, etc considering by the time the rest of these games got maxed out we're in to saturday past peak steam time.
People emailed valve staff asking for clarification on stuff, stuff like what do the potatos do, the answer that there could be a potential overclock on the cpus (aka games), so people waited and hoped for this "overclock" and nothing, the games keep chugging along. Whats worse is apparently we need to max all the games to unlock early, that is a physical impossibility. For people who are interested in seeing where the rest of the ARG goes (like me) the launch of portal 2 is holding the whole thing up.
Now fair enough the whole ARG thing has been fun, but the way people are effective made to make an additional purchase if they want to stand a chance and then this chance being pretty much rigged against the community it kinda damages the whole experience for me. It would not be so bad if it weren't for the fact this has happened before in the form a teamfortress 2 event with golden wrenches where they were meant to be random distributed, but they weren't the timing of them was all preset.
Am i disappointed portal 2 didn't unlock? Yes i am, is this just me being sour over it? I assure you not. Theres no good PR in setting a challenge and having it not come close to finishing, not for valve, not for the participants and most certainly not for any future valve "community event", its clear theyre going to be rigged. TBH I'm more concerned for the indie game publishers whos games were part of the pack, there a lot of people casually bought indie games when they were on sale etc unhappy with the way things have panned out and as a result have said they won't touch any such pack again. 15hrs remain and unless something happens at 12 any hope of good PR for valve ends there. Firefalcons gaming news weather forecast expect shitstorms.
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What did you expect matey
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Something fair? is that too much to ask these days?
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I did say Falcon that i doubt you get the game before the release date regardless of the Steam/Potato thing..................Just another cash making idea to coin in a bit more without the fair play as you suggest.
It might unlock tomorrow because that is when its released in the USA ,but as we know they may not unlock the UK one until Midnight Thursday.
Just checked Steam and its says its releasing at 7am PST Time April 19th.
Edited by time2die (Mon 18-Apr-11 19:52:17)
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Well there is one thing i am certain of is a tuesday launch.
Only hope i have in is the "special" reward for getting all the potatos.
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Why are the # potatoes going down? 
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The "overclock" apparently.
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Tell it to BBC WATCHDOG?
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The reviews for Portal 2 have now gone live and at first glance the game is getting some outstanding review scores ranging from nines to perfect tens.
Here is IGN score
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Right, the MBP has Portal2 activated now. I will look out for you [and others] with those Console thingys.
Get ready to eat K/B & Mouse.
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any pc players fancy playing co-op? i think i am nearly done with the single player campaign. bit disapointing there are no advanced or challenge chambers
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Just saw how they will get more loot from you - The configurable gestures/skins/heads/etc, etc.
Nice game [SP], but no-one will get ANY pay-for MP ad-ons from me. Trade-able, Bought, or hacked (it won't be long before THAT happens). Steam has had enough $$$'s from me for a while lol.
Some may fall for it - wow, great robot gestures, man! - you PS3 users won't even SEE them, but standard suits me anyway. Won't complete it anyway LOL.
It looks good on my Laptop, and it IS fun, but Co-op users only last seconds [or thirty] before they disappear. I am NOT that bad a player, though I may have a far superior connection.
Ok, I'm having to re-learn playing Portal. Never completed it last time due to the impossible maneoevers used/needed. Still enjoyed it up to then though.
Portal 2 is ok so far, and only started playing it a short while ago tonight. The *English voice used at the beginning was a laugh. I've only just got through into the first room.
Need to play it first before adding folks. Keep me in mind soon though. I'm NOT as good as I once was. Yearssss ago.
*Added.
Added 2: Got up to level 5 so far on SP. Getting swing of the game now. On MP there can be lots of d/c. Tis not me.
Oh well. I'll add you all 2moro.
Night!
Edited by deleted (Wed 20-Apr-11 00:54:18)
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Ive completed both single and coop campaigns and had a fair poke about
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Questions would spoil it for the rest of us waiting to get it this Friday ?,One thing that does bug me is the fact yourself and Guest don't look like you are that impressed compared to the fantastic reviews that the game has been getting.
You must have hammered both single player and co/op to finish it in one day though ?
Edited by time2die (Wed 20-Apr-11 07:21:59)
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I haven't completed either. I managed to throw about 1 hour at the SP and 2 hours at the MP. I have really enjoyed both so far.
On the SP I only got to the start of chapter 2 but I liked the whole jumping in and out of the original portal chambers (although massively destroyed/overgrown versions of them) and the humour in the game is still great.
The MP was absolutely fantastic. Got much further than I did on the SP so was introduced into various new... erm... devices (bad choice of word but I don't want to spoil things) that you use to complete the puzzles. Again you have glados making funny comments all the way through with the MP you also have your team mate there helping. But you end up killnig yourself and/or them at various points by not quite thinking things through and much hilarity ensues. Me and my mate were nearly falling off our seats for most of the time we played. I do think that the multiplayer won't have the replay value that you usually get/expect from games but it still so much fun to play
I haven't played it as much as FF but then I also don't want to - I turned it off at 10pm and played something else. It is masses of fun but I don't want to OD on it as it can take something away from the experience for me (for this particular game).
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Cheers mate and i am glad you are enjoying the game.
Just found out that with the Playstation version of the game Portal you get a Free Pc Version when you activate the code in the Playstation 3 box..........Sweet
Not that i see any reason to be playing it on a PC when i have the Playstation 3 version which is cross/platform anyway ?
I mean its not exactly a graphical powerhouse like Crysis is it .
Edited by time2die (Wed 20-Apr-11 13:36:38)
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Not really tbh, i spent my time wandering around and taking my time to listen to dialogue, etc, my end completion came out just over 6hrs (more 6h28ish), coop took me and my friend just under 4hrs. I dunno how some journos are getting 10+hrs out of single alone, i think theyre defending it pointlessly, i've seen at least 3 blog sites defending it, RPS, kotaku and someone else. People are mostly complaining about the length, people say theyve done it in 4hrs (single), Journos say no way, I say, its very possible if you want to blitz it, you are observant and you know what your doing. I'd say the only puzzles that held me up were due to observations, there is less explanation about puzzle areas (which is a good thing but i think some will find it bad), once you've realised what goes where its simple. 2nd time through i can't say how long it'd take but people aced portal 1 in 45mins. The point about the PC/Mac version having an item store and such, i do genuinely find sickening though, its truly disgusting (p.s: the loading screens all over the gaff grated on me too).
I wouldn't worry about the length, its an enjoyable game with plenty of humour and good times to be had, you'll probably want to do a 2nd play through to max the trophies/achievements out.
I don't think anything except what happens directly as a part of the plot would be counted as a spoiler, for example ilh hints at new mechanics, but these are shown in the portal 2 media (the gels and jump pads).
Some of the lines of dialogue are great, others are trying too hard. I agree with ilh that there isn't much re playability with any of it, if i was a console, more specifically ps3 owner of this game i wouldn't preown it though cause valve usually dish out free dlc down the line.
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Yea, I don't get the item store. Without having much replay value it seems to make no sense.
Finished the MP last night - took us about 4 hours too I guess and that wasn't really trying too hard - we did keep killing each other for fun as we went round.
I always forgave portal for being short because it was a freebie with the orange box (for me and many others) but was expecting a lot bigger. 10-10.5 hours isn't exactly a huge amount of time to complete a game...
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I picked it up today as the game shops were selling it because of it been Good Friday tomorrow.will try it later tonight as its just to nice to be sat playing games.
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I've completed single player and liked it a lot. The new elements seemed a bit underused but I enjoyed the story.
Since I'm a few days late to the party all my friends that have it have already completed co-op, so I'm at a bit of a loose end there.  Anyone else in a similar situation and want to go through it with me? OK, I'm a bit desperate. I'm reisub on Steam.
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