Pinball FX 2...

...is available cheap for only PC users, I'm afraid. Another exclusive for us

The customary video is here

Another Exclusive Ha ! Ha

I don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight after you telling me this game is for PC only

I won't list the console exclusives else i be hear until 6 am in the morning,you keep dragging that barrel of despair mate

You carry on playing your 8 bit games and the rest of us will move on because you know whats coming next..

GREATNESS AWAITS

Edited by time2die (Fri 22-Nov-13 00:29:22)

In reply to a post by MrTAToad2:

...is available cheap for only PC users, I'm afraid. Another exclusive for us

The customary video is here

Pinball FX 2 v Killzone Shadowfall���.My thats a hard one���.NOT

And how many bank robberies did you have to do to pay for that ?

Just so people know its on the humble bundle weekly sale

About the same amount if a little less than you have to do each year for your PC upgrades

What yearly upgrades - PC's don't need 'em.

Nor do we need to pay charges for multiplayer games

Get away with Ya

Yeah we pay now for the online service on the Playstation 4 and yeah its not exactly fair that PC gamers don't have to,but its £40 a year about 0.80 p a week that don't even buy half a cup of coffee at Costa or a loaf of bread.

We also get plenty of free games each month and the price if the subscription is given back 10 fold.

you dont think variety of games is good?

I am not a fan of exclusives for the record, isnt good for the market. Isnt good for consumers for sure.

But that game is most defenitly not 8bit, a game doesnt need to be a FPS to be modern. FPS is just one single genre.

The video clip shows clear 3d rendering.

I cant think why you defending paying sony/microsoft to pay multiplayer, its a clear ripoff. Dont let brand loyalty blind you on that.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 22-Nov-13 16:54:51)

Yeah paying to play online is a kick in the teeth but what else are we suppose to do,unless we had total unity between every Xbox and Playstation player we are stuck with it.

At the end of the day Playstation plus costs £40 a year and you get that back 10 times over with the free games and stuff they give you each month.

Infact myself personally have not benefited as much as most and i tend to want games Day 1,some of the game i have bought for £40 have been free on the playstation network for Plus subscribers mere months after.

My comments are a little bit of banter between myself and Toady�.If you watch the threads and all of the topics which has been going on for months and months Toady is in the PC camp so he likes to humour us console gamers.

I made that 8 bit statement as a laugh,as soon as the word pinball was mentioned i never even took at the link,and i don't care how great a pinball game looks its certainly of no interest to me.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

you dont think variety of games is good?

I am not a fan of exclusives for the record, isnt good for the market. Isnt good for consumers for sure.

But that game is most defenitly not 8bit, a game doesnt need to be a FPS to be modern. FPS is just one single genre.

The video clip shows clear 3d rendering.

I cant think why you defending paying sony/microsoft to pay multiplayer, its a clear ripoff. Dont let brand loyalty blind you on that.

Variety in games would be brilliant and again there are to many Fps on the market and a lot of them are complete trash,but I'm lucky in that respect because it just happens to be my favourite type of game.

Generally anything that involves shooting stuff is what i like,so thats not just the run of the Mill FPS ,it should be watchdogs,infamous second son and a load of other type of games.

Hate anything Sport related and i don't do driving games either.

In reply to a post by time2die:

Get away with Ya

Yeah we pay now for the online service on the Playstation 4 and yeah its not exactly fair that PC gamers don't have to,but its £40 a year about 0.80 p a week that don't even buy half a cup of coffee at Costa or a loaf of bread.

We also get plenty of free games each month and the price if the subscription is given back 10 fold.

Free on PS3

Not for long I've had a word with Sony and they have assured me anybody that don't upgrade the fee for the playstation 3 will be £60.

I agree you got no choice really, I just wouldnt defend it as its not a great thing to pay for it.

Its clever business, both microsoft (and now sony) know people who play multiplayer will pay regardless.

I paid for xbox live gold occasionally when could grab a deal like eg. sometimes £1 month. I cant justify it at normal price tho but I dont play multiplayer console games, and its rare on the pc, last multiplayer game I played on pc was hearthstone. I played the ff14 beta on the ps3 but I am not a big fan of mmo games got bored of it.

I agree you got no choice really, I just wouldnt defend it as its not a great thing to pay for it.

Defend?

I had a choice when I subscribed on the PS3. Nobody forced me to do it, but I could see it was a value service. I've had loads of free games over the last eighteen months. If people don't want to pay for online they don't have to. They can vote with their feet and buy a PC and play for free.

You are being obvious again.

Well I won't be paying £60

stop been so ratty.

so you buy a console exclusive game and want to play it multiplayer, there is no choice but to pay for the service.

to say there is a choice to not play it isnt really choice.

of course it sems only you can turn a discussion about paying for multiplayer to paying for the ps3 service which isnt a multiplayer service, just to create an argument. Brilliant, I guess that makes you happy.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 22-Nov-13 21:48:13)

We be happy next Friday thats for certain ��.He winding you up mate

surprised Jaxx has not been back on posting his midnight thoughts of his Xbox One,more than likely trying to get the stuck disk out of the machine,or trying to find some space for the power pack unit thats about the size of the actual VCR, i mean Xbox One

One things certain they certainly need a design department at Microsoft because that console is certainly not to sexy looking���If it was your girlfriend you would be classed as a Chubby Chaser

Edited by time2die (Sat 23-Nov-13 01:16:56)

of course it sems only you can turn a discussion about paying for multiplayer to paying for the ps3 service which isnt a multiplayer service, just to create an argument. Brilliant, I guess that makes you happy.

What a load of drivel, it's absolutely relevant.

If you were to argue that Activision should have supplied free dedicated servers, seeing as they published one of the biggest most successful games available, you may have a point. But your overwhelming sense of entitlement to an online service is laughable. You don't deserve and haven't earned anything. You just bought a game. If you don't like the game don't buy it. If you can get a better deal on a different platform, buy that platform. If the PS+ service didn't offer free games, I wouldn't have subscribed. It does, so I did. There are free to play models available at launch that will not require a PS+ subscription, but then they will charge for content. You pay your money, you takes your pick. When the Utopian gaming network launches, I will happily join you there. We can all hold hands and skip freely through the digital daffodils.

And for the record, I'm not winding anybody up. You are obvious in your ambition. If you buy a console you are apparently a brand fanboy. If you buy both, you are a console fanboy. If you subscribe to either network, you are no doubt a scab. I'm not ratty, I just don't have time for that sort of nonsense. You are the one that does not seem to have time to live and let live. SPOOK is a graphics who're and loves his PC, but openly and honestly admits the frustrations of PC gaming. Toady is PC through and through and actually publishes videos of himself playing various games. That commitment deserves respect.

I find it hard to respect the opinions of a gamer that seems to have nothing positive to say...ever.

when is the ps4 released here?

is odd the ps4 was first in america but the xbox one is first here.

no, I really dont know what the point of this drivel is, you are just baiting for an argument for whatever reason.

It was the industry standard many years ago to supply dedicated servers without subscription.
Not to mention on the xbox 360 there was subscription fees for peer to peer playing (no dedicated servers).
Servers wouldnt be free because activision games are not free to buy.

I can understand subscription fees on games that have no purchase cost, but those fees to the game publisher not to the console manufacturer.

Microsoft were charging fees simply for been the portal, nothing else. It worked as people had no alternative. If you want to watch netflix on your xbox360 you pay the fee, simple as that really. If you want to play multiplayer on your xbox 360 exclusive game you pay the fee, its really that simple.

I am not questioning the value of the ps3 psn package, thats an entirely different subject, as on the ps3 watching netflix requires no psn fee, also there is no fee for multiplayer on the ps3.

On the ps4 there is a fee for multiplaying gaming, sony are struggling financially, they realised people will pay it, so it makes good business sense, but thankfully they are not requiring psn payments for netflix etc. Do I think paying a monthly sub for multiplayer gaming is right? no, but I do understand why sony are charging for it.

The same applies on the PC, eg. I think games like WoW are horrible for the industry. Since blizzard released WoW and it became a cashcow the amount of single player games they have released has almost come to a standstill.

I dont need to make a post just to pat someone on the back, there is already enough of that. I only post things usually to either debate or point out problems. So I have to post gleaming feedback to have respect, I guess I dont get your respect then.

I dont need to make a post just to pat someone on the back, there is already enough of that. I only post things usually to either debate or point out problems. So I have to post gleaming feedback to have respect, I guess I dont get your respect then.

Above is another of your snide fanboy references. I don't do snide, I tell it like it is. You are an obvious troll and appear to struggle to comprehend what you actually type.

You are continually trying to create a fanboy issue on this forum where there isn't one and it's fast becoming irksome.

The American market is not as strong as Xbox land the home of Microsoft so Sony targeted that area 2 weeks before the European release date which is next Friday November 29th.

Microsoft did i worldwide launch all at the same time,but where Sony have about 30 regions or there or there about i think Microsoft system only went to about 13 regions.

pinball FX is a Great game if you like pinball.
I love the new Star Wars tables they brought out for the xbox360 version.
For the xbox360 the game is free but you need to buy table bundles to play.
You get trail tables to see if you like them before you buy.

Yes, it's a bit cheeky having to pay for extra tables, but it is a good game. Never been particularly good at pinball, probably due to lack of weapons or violence

Im no pinball king myself friend,but I do find it fun to play on.
Great detail as gone into some of the tables.
Anyway have yourself a great Sunday mate.

Best Regards'
John

I doubt I would bother on the TV but I might have a look for some pinball for the vita. I seem to remember seeing it when browsing the store and it spot on for travel or bog play.

Edit: Just found these reviews on Metacritic so I'm going to download it in a bit.

Edited by mrnelster (Sun 24-Nov-13 14:23:11)

Get real...Greatness awaits and that pinball game will never see the light of day again,besides I would rather put sand in my eyes

I don't think its that bad. The tables aren't that expensive and in the old days (pinball dreams anyone?) you would get a couple of tables and that was it - if you wanted more you had to wait for the sequel.

As for the game itself , its a good way to spend a few minutes and the way it shows your steam friends' accomplishments adds to the competitive feel.

trolling is trying to generate an argument, what do you think you are doing?

me and time2die are cool with each other now, the only guy on here now trying to cause a fuss is you.

you say you disrespect me because I dont have a posting style which is just to leap praise on a company, then you change tone again saying my issue is just anti fanboy (well yes I admit I hate fanboys) but you are saying it in a way that you think every comment I make is aimed at fanboys, not really no.

I think half of your replies to me are aimed at provoking an argument (or to bully me off), its pretty clear and I would say you lucky that the moderation on this site is very soft and easy going.

You seem more interested in me than the points I make.

Hey its nearly Crimbo [Bo Selecta!] i think at first Chrysalis you did come over in your posts as anti console and i think that is where the confusion lies,but lets not open up a can of worms all over again,each and every one of us have put our points across in a manner we think appropriate.

Personally we have a lot of friendly banter on here reference PC v Consoles even Microsoft consoles V Sony Consoles and its all generally a good laugh and not to heated.

But i guess we are going to get a little protective of our chosen platforms and what suits are needs,personally i got into console gaming when the likes of Sega,Nintendo,Microsoft,and Sony started making them,but my love was still for PC gaming mainly and some of the best times i had was with a PC.

But now been older i like the ease of use with consoles and they have some fantastic games on them,admittedly they don't look as crisp and sharp as a nice PC but the gap has now shortened after we welcome next generation consoles.

And when a console which is nearly 7 years old comes out with games of quality like the last of us imagine what we are going to see in 18 months time on the new systems.

I can not tell you how excited i am about this coming Friday and i really hope it lives up to my high expectations,i was playing Killzone Shadowfall today in a shopping mall in Game and it blew me away.

And i love how fast the new interface is compared to the farce that is the playstation store at present.

yeah and let us know how you get on, I actually hope your ps4 arrives today.

If you can do a video of the dashboard and psn store.