xbox1 and pc games merging?

If i have this right microsoft are playing an excellent card.

Windows 10 will run on xbox1 so it can play pc games, and pc's can play xbox1 games?

is this going to happen?

Be an amazing thing for Xbox One,Microsoft are trying I give them that credit....

maybe time for me to buy an Xbox one, to keep my PS4 company, have the best of both

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

If i have this right microsoft are playing an excellent card.

Windows 10 will run on xbox1 so it can play, hang and crash pc games too and pc's can play xbox1 games at lower frame rates.

is this going to happen?

Corrected that for you.

you seem a bit of a platform loyalist.

This is great news for me as (a) it means get to play console exclusives without having to spend £400+ on a console and (b) superior performance not worse performance.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

you seem a bit of a platform loyalist.

I swear he means fan boy

No we ain't Fanboys and I hate that term,basically what we are doing is just stating the obvious ,the playstation is the better graphically equipped console and doesn't have resolution problems like Xbone....

And we all now it has the better looking games.....we are only speaking the facts mate and you know we don't speak with fork tongue Jorkila

you seem a bit of a platform loyalist.

And I don't think you realise how obvious your posts are.

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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

you seem a bit of a platform loyalist.

I swear he means fan boy

He does indeed. But he knows using that term gives his game away.

The fact remains that playing games through windows is a regressive step, not some earth shattering evolution in gaming. Consoles platforms are a completely different proposition to PC gaming. Blurring that line doesn't make sense on a wider scale.

In reply to a post by time2die:

No we ain't Fanboys and I hate that term,basically what we are doing is just stating the obvious ,the playstation is the better graphically equipped console and doesn't have resolution problems like Xbone....

And we all now it has the better looking games.....we are only speaking the facts mate and you know we don't speak with fork tongue Jorkila

The PS4 comes out with the higher numbers on a lot of the games (BF4 900p PS4, 720p XB1), but when you actually look at the pics you really cant tell a difference if you look at most of the pics.

Take this image from both

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/1...

Is there really a difference there graphics wise??

It's just how they juggle the numbers against the image quality, look at this one for instance

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1534/153...

You can clearly see that the PS4 blurs/smoothes out/smudges/softens the guys hair (and to a lesser degree his face) for lower detail where as the XB1 doesn't.

No doubt the PS4 reports the bigger numbers but can anyone say they make that much of a difference in all honesty when you look at the pics.

Some are very clever with the reports as well, earlier this week

Shadows of Mordor was reported as 1080p 60fps on PS4 and 720p 30fps on the XB1 when it has actually been looked at its

1080p 30FPS on both consoles (day one patch XB1) although one guy says its 60FPS unlocked on the PS4 and is getting 30-40FPS on it.

Either way there really is next to no difference in it, if it was a film and 1080p and 720p then yes you can tell the difference but with all the other jiggery pockery the consoles do then unless you are playing them both side by side and staring at the screen you will really struggle to tell the difference.

If I and other people really cared about resolution numbers I would use my Master race PC.

Don't get me wrong the PS4 clearly is slightly more powerful and is hitting the numbers easier and if I had both of the consoles and liked the controller and it was a single player game I'd pick the PS4 version over the XB1 version.

Far to many people (especiallys fanboys, for which I will say there appear to be none on here and we are all just having friendly banter) are looking at these numbers and are just assuming it's much better when in reality the difference is next to nothing.

I much prefer 1080'to 720. It may not be noticeably different gameplay wise, but I find it far easier on my eyes. I suffer from eye strain and it's definitely better in that respect with heavy textures. I'm not too fussed about frame rate as I'm used to 30 anyway. DriveClub was criticised originally as requiring 60 fps as a racer, but I've not noticed any tearing on videos and the reviews of those who have received it early are generally really good. Project Cars which I will likely pick up after crimbo for proper circuit racing looks beautiful in the graphics department too, but noticeably lacking in background texture. That's fine for circuit racing and the reduced textures will probably mean at least 60fps on all platforms. Horses for sparse courses you might say?

I think the trouble for PC gamers is it's more noticeable if you're used to playing everything at 60+ and then are asked to go back. I've never felt it to be an issue on console to be honest.

You're comment about the slight power difference is incorrect though. You can't make the comparison on multi plats as they are publisher and/or budget led and far more susceptible to platform nerfing. Where you will notice the difference between the consoles is on exclusive titles and that point will be hammered home this year, either way.

I agree with my failing not 20/20 vision that I doubt I would see a noticeable difference,but facts are facts and if gaming journalism tells me the Playstation 4 version is better then that's what I buy.

The minute the Xbox One version runs and looks better then I have no hesitation in buying it for that system just like days of old when I bought 99.9% of my multi platform games for the 360 because it was always the better version.

I don't hate the Xbox One there is much to like about it,both just need some games that really justify owning the systems,there are just a few on each but nothing mind blowing,but I would say at present the playstation 4 has a few more than Xbox One.

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

You're comment about the slight power difference is incorrect though. You can't make the comparison on multi plats as they are publisher and/or budget led and far more susceptible to platform nerfing. Where you will notice the difference between the consoles is on exclusive titles and that point will be hammered home this year, either way.

I agree that it multi plats could be susceptible to platform nerfing BUT you can only really go by something that both of them are on, Take COD for instance though there is no way that they would have a lower resolution/nerf on the XB1 as M$ pay them a lot for the early map packs etc.

Exclusives you can argue you won't really be able to tell as not all games are going to be the same, Some will be going all out taxing out the console and another will be far more basic and able to max out on resolution and FPS.
Forza 5 is 1080p and 60FPS for instance and Drive Club is only 1080p 30FPS so if people just looked at the numbers then XB1 would be more powerful.

Like I've said before though I really don't give a **** about the numbers as long as it pretty much plays and looks the same and they do (at the mo at least).

Be interesting to here more of Forza Horizons and more of Jorkila thoughts and impressions,briefly he has said it looks really good but I would like to know more.

Since I'm not keen on Racing games in general,buying Drive Club has basically killed of any chance of me buying Forza,even if Jorkila says it's brilliant.

Since you have Forza Horizons Kila and have seen Drive Club what looks better mate in your honest opinion Fanboyism aside .

Come on ......Be Honest .....I'm all ears.

Having seen both I'm calling Drive Club and I would have no hesitation to say Forza if I thought that was what I thought regardless of system.

no just seems you trying to be a troll with your post. What do you expect.

my comment wasnt aimed at you.

I agree the ps4 is more powerful than the xbox1, although that has nothing to do with what I was posting, which is a possible merging of games libraries.

And my comment wasn't aimed at you matey...

PC and console are two very different markets and microsoft has only hinted that some windows 10 apps will come to xbone.

Really interesting proposition , not sure how it would work in practise , but this generation of console is pretty much a PC anyway and windows 10 being realised with DirectX12 that supposed to be the Xbone next performance boost .

Who knows , what's real and what's Hype , im not getting sucked into anything until it happens .

Still remember cloud computing and titan fall , which was a load of BS

Also Microsoft need to do something revolutionary to make the under powered Xbone a more attractive proposition .

And more features and functionality is how the Xbone was marketed .

In reply to a post by woweebert:

Also Microsoft need to do something revolutionary to make the under powered Xbone a more attractive proposition .

And more features and functionality is how the Xbone was marketed .

Precisely.

The one revolutionary thing Microsoft can do for the Xbox one, is put some serious effort into making great exclusives, just as Sony always has. Then there would be less argument about marginal or not differences between the consoles. Quantum Break looks fantastic, if we can be sure it was genuine Xbox footage. More of the same will boost their sales, not cloud boosting and windows support.

Another reason why I bought into the Xbox One Quantum Break,but sadly it's another delay which seems to be a pattern with current generation systems.....

Think features and functionality is also a rout Microsoft are going to go down , the xbone might not be able to pump out pixel like a PS4 but it already does allot of other things the PS4 can't and allot is still to come .

That will not appeal to hardcore gamers but will appeal to casual gamers , and most casuals have not brought into next gen .

It was marketed as the " centre of your digital world " and that is still where I think Microsoft are going with the development .

Might seem a strange thing but I honestly believe you need competition in all markets , a monopoly is not good for consumers , so I do hope the Xbox one pulls some sales back over Christmas .

Completely agree with everything in your post Iranian!

seen some stats which were put on a youtube vi, as it was in response to so called true gamers saying they dont want [censored] like netflix on their console.

in .us homes consoles are the most popular way to stream media content, and something like half of console owners want it to do more than just play games.

Personally I think if steam games were playable on the device I think thats a great move, as from where I sit the weakest thing about the new consoles is lack of content. I also think the pc market is growing and certian companies are recognising that.

Is the console too weak?

Its too weak if you only care about 1080p and high end graphics. But there is more to gaming than FPS and pixel count. Alot of gaming performance is down to how well a game is developed, e.g. watchdogs brought high end pc's to their knees, that wasnt due to hardware but due to lazy coding.

In reply to a post by time2die:

Be interesting to here more of Forza Horizons and more of Jorkila thoughts and impressions,briefly he has said it looks really good but I would like to know more.

Since I'm not keen on Racing games in general,buying Drive Club has basically killed of any chance of me buying Forza,even if Jorkila says it's brilliant.

Since you have Forza Horizons Kila and have seen Drive Club what looks better mate in your honest opinion Fanboyism aside .

Come on ......Be Honest .....I'm all ears.

Having seen both I'm calling Drive Club and I would have no hesitation to say Forza if I thought that was what I thought regardless of system.

I genuinely wouldn't want to pick the 2 games apart mate, Horizon 2 is a truly beautiful game, the weather/dust/particle effects are truly what next generation is all about and being a forza fan the gameplay/control is solid with the right settings on/off!! (had an absolute blast online last night too)!!
As for driveclub, again it's what next gen is all about on the face of it but without playing it I couldn't judge. If the gameplay match the graphics we've seen in the videos (which horizon 2 does) then you ps4 boys are in for a real treat!!