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Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 11-Nov-11 23:49:08
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Definitely not true.

Compare a map like Resistance to Seatown for example. On Seatown it's so close quarters you should probably be using the striker shotgun as it's lethal. Try running and gunning with it on Resistance and you're in a world of disappointment.

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Standard User mrnelster
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 11-Nov-11 23:51:11
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Still as unplayable as MW2 and BLOPS for me. Perhaps 1 game in 20 they die when you shoot them. And the delay is around one second. Funny that, as I'm hosting.

I'll stick to spec ops.
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Standard User time2die
(knowledge is power) Sat 12-Nov-11 01:32:09
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I know I've asked the question a few times matey but i struggle to understand why someone with such a fast connection and very low ping has so much trouble when playing online games.

Could you try and explain it in very simple terms as i am so curious and every time i see your connection issues the mind boggles to understand why.

If if you told me you were like 5 miles from the exchange and your download speed was half a meg it might make a little sense to me , is it because your connection is that good this is why you are having the problems matey wink


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Standard User mrnelster
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 12-Nov-11 11:30:48
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It's an enigma isn't it? You would think the opposite. Bare in mind mate that my only technical qualification is my suffering! But very few people even attempt to pass comment as it seems a deliberate lack of information is maintained by the developers in the mist part.

PC sever administrators as you probably know, can introduce compensation codes to try to remove host advantage. With a 7ms ping that will be applied to me with virtually every other player in the game. It is sometimes noticeable even on dedicated servers, but that's just online gaming. You will never completely remove that.

But on COD it has always been atrocious. Mercenary TDM is supposed to help by stopping players inviting people into their party with terrible lines. But that isn't much better because the matchmaking is so poor.

When I go to a mates house, he has four 42"'screens and we set up our playstations for LAN. Two of the players I can smash into oblivion with one hand tied behind my back, the other player is about the same level as me or maybe a tad better on his good days! When we go online all three out play me 10-1. They tell me that I am stood shooting at thin air and that the player is long gone. I tried kill confirmed last night. One game was reasonably good fun. The rest of the games were ridiculous. I would run over tags and not collect them. When I turned round there us a team mate behind me. The delay seeing him as getting their before me.

I would love for someone to tell me it was fixable but I dont think it is mate. And most of the players winning games, aren't. The mid table players are probably as good if not better. But ego's mean the status quo gets defended. I'm not the best player in the world, but on LAN I am between 2-3 K/D and 20-25% accurate. Online against the same players that drops to 0.5 and 7%.

I once posted a link previously that shows a debate on a guy with superb stats. He clocks an issue that he thinks might explain why he finds it so easy to kill players. What do the fellow members do? Accuse him of cheating. Better that than admit they might not be quite as good as they think they are. I can't find the link at the minute, but this one from JD_2020 from Treyarch is enlightening on their "that'll do" approach.
"Hey JD_2020, when I play Black Ops people are jerking and skiing around the map and when I shoot someone all the bullets go through them".

JD_2020 "What a lucky guy, you have the worst connection and therefore are at a huge advantage".

http://boards.ign.com/call_of_duty/b6860/199036765/p1
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Standard User mrnelster
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 12-Nov-11 11:34:09
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P.S. You're more than welcome to come and try for yourself if you want! smile

It will completely change your perception of connection requirements for a good experience mate.
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Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 12-Nov-11 12:05:15
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On the PC it's possible to change the ping indicator so it shows more bars with a smaller interval representing each bar.

By default if you play on the PC or consoles you get 4 bars to represent the ping. Each bar is worth 100ms. Therefore anyone with 4/4 can have a ping from a normal-ish 30-40ms up to 99ms. 3/4 bars can be as high as 200ms. You'd not normally assume that though, as 3/4 is a nice enough green colour and looks good on the surface. 200ms in reality is pretty [censored] for gaming. If you see anyone with 1 or 2 bars it's probably a lost cause.

So on the PC I upped my count to 10 bars and set the interval to 20ms. Essentially anyone above 200ms is shown as a small, solitary red bar. In nearly every game at least 1 person is like that, lagging around. Many people have around 3-5 bars (ping is therefore something around 100-140ms. Not terrible but not brilliant. Another few will usually have closer to 7-8 bars which is a far more acceptable ping. This is why the feeling of bullets missing tends to be higher.

On the PC you luckily get the option of dedicated servers which tell you a numerical ping in the browser before you connect. So if enough people actually bother to read that before they join, you can have games of 18 people where just about everyone has a ping of 120 or less which is similar to other online games. On dedicated servers for the PC the game feels a lot sharper.

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Standard User mrnelster
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 12-Nov-11 13:23:18
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I posted the other week about not bing able to get on to Battlelog on the PS3. I don't know if anybody else has managed it?

Sonu though t I'd look into the free MW3 Elite service aswell, and guess what? Haven been able to log into that since registering. Still at least they can use my personal information for marketing purposes.

How about you on the premium service mate, you been able to utilise it?
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Standard User time2die
(knowledge is power) Sat 12-Nov-11 13:40:46
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No mate i registered when i got the game but every time i try and connect it keeps coming up Error and i think this is happening with the majority of users.

Not so sure exactly what I'm getting regarding the elite content but i think its just the downloadable content which is released each month at no additional costs.

Think i got into the stats page once when i first got the game because when i opened it i redeemed all the codes on the ticket of the hardened edition as i did not want to fuss about with them at a later date.

Not played it much believe it or not and it takes a long time to rank up and i find it extremely hard that already we have people 70 plus in rank and I'm on 20.wink
Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 13-Nov-11 17:50:02
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COD Elite is broken at the moment and they've admitted as much.

It doesn't exist at all yet for the PC but they're apparently working on getting running ASAP. Should be decent when it finally arrives but they'll need to be sharpish.

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 16-Nov-11 13:52:36
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Lag compensation for the host is a nightmare, it makes the game unplayable. Make the host an equal by all means but to actually make the game worse for them being host is shocking, i just leave now if i am host, i am sick of getting hammered just because i have a good connection.
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