I'm not too bothered about BF4 at the mo, (It's summer now so I don't play indoor games, I'm out and about in the real world

) I'm sticking with the PS3 for now and will buy it for that when it's out. To be honest I don't expect it to look that much better on the PS4 compared to the 3
I doubt I'll bother with a PS4. My mate has offered me his old PC when he upgrades, it's good enough to play everything out there at the mo so I doubt I'll bother with consoles again. Must admit I'm fed up with joypads. I played a game of BF3 the other night (first time for weeks) and I was rubbish again
"bullcrap"?? You sure you're not a Yank pretending to be from up north???