Yeah, I'd like to see Killzone for myself but I don't think I like the look of the multiplayer really. I will take a look at some proper PS4 footage of the game on YouTube. I'd like to see how it plays rather than just witness its spectacular visuals. What I'm afraid of is that it'll be a bit like playing Unreal Tournament 3 online. Nothing wrong with that game at all but it always felt a bit lonely and soulless when you stripped it back to just running around killing people to get more kills than the next man. I prefer team based stuff with a proper co-operative (shared objective) feel to it.

I was thinking BF4 would be great as a social kind of game. You and Timey could link up - I'd have loved to have joined ya both. That's pretty much the chief reason I wanted a PS4. But that's more often than not a bit of a fiction as real life playing online with mates can be a pita or certainly used to be.

Games like Battlefield do take up your time for sure. You can still drop in and out but I think you're right to question it on the basis of stickability, grinding for the best weapons and (importantly) vehicle unlocks. There's an unlock shortcut pack for weapons/vehicle stuff for BF3. It's more money but might make sense to anyone who liked the game but didn't have the time. You definitely have to level the playing field which is why I tried to get in earlier this time. There's plenty of level 100+ guys already and already too many ace pilots and helicopter guys judging from last night.

Hey up,calm down ! calm down! i aint finished yet ?

Im not understanding the scores on that game anyway,don't you worry you won't be top for long

Well it may well be and i was on Chapter 7 until i got the corrupted data [censored] ,but Battlefield is spectacular from what i have played and the multiplayer is also fantastic having played a few maps this evening.

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Jaysus. It's official then. Spook knows best! Yeah. BF4 definitely looks better than KZ but as a single player KZ has gotta be better.

Sorry mate, Timey is likely still hungover!

BF4 will no doubt be a much better all round multiplayer. KZ:SF is a COD killer. I don't class BF games as the same genre as COD so its irrelevant comparing KZ and BF4, it could never live up to the MP.


As for visual fidelity however, going head to head, BF4 would end up not being able to sit down for a fortnight. Killzone Shadowfall really is that good looking, even if it can't live up to BF4's brilliant tactical gameplay.

Apart from the rain effects in the first 10 minutes which by all accounts look dreadful and thats from Nellys mouth �

Mate it is a awesome game and i have even played a little multiplayer,but I'm saying Battlefield is better having played both and you aint Nelly so stick that in your pipe ?

I like the training levels in the new game where you can test out all the guns and vehicles and stuff,still can not fly those dam planes and helicopters though,l manage to take of then crash into the ground 10 seconds later or the minute i try to fire the weapons or make any sort of turn

This is my Battlefield downfall

It's your life skill downfall. Come The Day After Tomorrow where would you rather be, Brumingham International Airport or fist fighting over a four year old Toyota Avensis at the Bullring taxi rank?

I wanted a hard copy of BF4 so that I could trade it if I couldn't put up with the lag. I'm so worried about you, I might pick one up tonight and you can be my chopper gunner. And none of these "going boozing in Wales" excuses soldier.

/makes mental list of excuses for inevitable tree ploughing

In other news, I played Resogun online co-op last night and it works really well. Nice touches are the fact that if you pause the game you are both paused automatically, which is handy because even scratching your nose means certain death in Resogun.

Also if your wingman loses all of his lives, if you reach the end of the level he is reincarnated with all of his lives again. That's quite important as 9 times out of ten I score 6-7 million. That would mean your other player waiting for 15 minutes for the next game, which to be honest I wouldn't do.

I also played it on the Vita remotely which is really nice, but hard on the eyes and the lack of triggers makes it very difficult to bomb etc. I also ended up recording 2 gig of gameplay and I still haven't worked out which button I must have pressed on the Vita that replaces the share button!

Yeah we going to go really far if i am the one that is the chopper gunner ,i will master it I'm sure but i have always found flying the vehicles a pain in the backside.

Fist fighting over a Toyota Avensis �..No ? its a Ford Capri 3.0 fully loaded or XR3i .

XR3i! They don't make 'em like that anymore. Which could be a good or a bad thing, depending which way you look at it.

I got my wings. Fully insured Battlefield pilot with nearly 10 years experience from whenever BF1942 was released. Compared to the pros though, I still suck and you'll still crash a lot but I can stay airborne for a while unless there's trees. Trees are a nuisance.