it will probably be a couple of years or more, the price cuts come when the manufacturing costs go down, eventually they will be able to produce chips with higher yields and more chips per wafer, thats when the cost will go down. Supply and demand will also be a factor of course but it wont be this soon.

Of course its also possible a revised cheaper product might have features cut such as the ps3 slim not been as good as the ps3 fat.

BC is the killer feature to make people jump, a risk free move that plays all your existing (valuable) games collection without extra clutter.

However I think the real reason BC doesnt exist is it conflicts with publishers, it will hit sales when they try to resell ps3 games on the ps4 and their new planned internet play service.

If you think BC doesnt sell, if the wii-u had no BC I wouldnt have brought one, I got the wii-u so I could play 4 wii games I wanted. Although I still cant play those games as I am waiting for my wii classic controller to arrive.

You may well all be right but this forum is for gamers and you would all buy the latest gear no doubt, however the other demographic such as myself who likes a wee bit of gaming from time to time but not a die hard will be waiting for a while before dipping their toes in to the water. As for the PS4 v Xbox1, I assume the fact its £80 cheaper explains alot but its still not a price where your average family will get one or possibly two for the kids etc. Get the price to under £300 and then I may consider oh and drop the game prices as well. Just bought two Xbox games for Christmas, but only once they dropped to under £30.

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The consoles definitely don't seem to be selling like hot cakes. Game in Bath had some PS4's available the other day.

Speaking of hot cakes sainsburys has hot cross buns on the shelves actually right next to mince pies so happy easter to you as well

Yeah my next E/shop purchase is Super metroid but you can use the tablet for that

So the Playstation 4 at £349 is to high a price to pay given whats in it and the fact its actually £150 less than when the playstation 3 originally shipped.

So for the sake of a mere £50 drop of the playstation 4 to something like £299 you would rather wait

Don't get it and never will,now if the playstation 4 was like £700 and you wanted it for under £500 i might just see the reason to your logic way of thinking.

People have short memories as discussed in previous threads in this forum over the past 18 months and the Sony Playstation 4 is amazing value for money and apart from some special bundles there is no way i can see this unit reduced for at least 18 months.

And the Wii U at present is a steal and like Chrysalis says its BC so it plays your Nintendo Wii games and it has some really nice games at present,not what i would call hardened online gamer multiplayer games but excellent single player games.

How much you want to pay then and don't try and pull a Spook on me

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Its £150 less than the PS3 launched at, if I recall the PS3 was toiling in the early days of release and that was price! PS4 is cheaper than the Xbox if it was the other way round I`m sure the Xbox would be in short supply! So I think the point is made, they need to be cheaper before they are mainstream!