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Not only do none of the many recent postponements of FTTC seem to be reflected there, which is odd as I understood it to be an automated process wrt BT data, but it looks as though there are a number of exchanges that are in the proposed OfCom Market 3 re-classification list that are not showing any LLU, or at most one plus BTW.
As to get on that list I would expect three LLU plus BTW it looks suspicious.
Anybody any views? An obvious one to look for is anyone on C & W LLU on an exchange recently activated by them, but I also wonder about any recent WBC enablements.
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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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Why don't you give 'em a shout and see wazzup 
Then let us know 
John Boy
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Don't know about the Broadband list but the ISP speed testing seems to have hit long grass, I'm thinking of turning my Neoware Box off as half the graphs on the status page don't work. Think he has other (American) fish to fry.
Tim
ZeN & freenetname
ST546v6 on 8 Meg Active
Check my bad boy speeds out on ZeN
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The graphs from my Linksys box haven't worked for a year or more, and emails to support enquiring about what's happening go unanswered.
"Think he has other (American) fish to fry. "
Certainly looks like it.
Shame really, it was a nice idea (and before he went US corporate he was doing a grand job).
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Ok the box is now off, just wasting bandwidth for me now.
Tim
ZeN & freenetname
ST546v6 on 8 Meg Active
Check my bad boy speeds out on ZeN
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They appear to be focusing on more profitable ventures such as the speed testing device they've developed. Working with OFCOM and the FCC. They used to post quite good broadband information and news on the blog, but not anymore. They've gone all corporate
Your right about market classifications not being updated, My exchange (EMBOSTO) is still stated as market 1, when in actual fact it should be market 3 as 3 LLUs have gone in recently.
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Never requested mine. I consider 30GB to be quite moderate, and in actual fact would be the usage of just one person in my house, let alone four.
What was the benefit for us again? a pretty graph?
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What gets up my nose is no reply to emails sent to enquire about its status. Oh well now have a nice silver doorstop.
Tim
ZeN & freenetname
ST546v6 on 8 Meg Active
Check my bad boy speeds out on ZeN
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i fired off an email using my work email address and got a reply straight away from neils "BlackBerry® wireless device"
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Not even getting the monitor page to log in at now, prolly cuz I turned it off. 
Tim
ZeN & freenetname
ST546v6 on 8 Meg Active
Check my bad boy speeds out on ZeN
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The benefit for the community at large was (and could still be) very similar in principle to the benefit(s) from the also-disappeared Netmonitor client - a large set of objective real-world performance information on various relevant aspects of an ISP's performance, based on trustable measurements and not some combination of subjective opinions and dodgy speedtests.
The benefit for the individual user was indeed a set of graphs, plus whatever warm feeling came from contributing to something bigger.
SamKnows did a bit more than Netmonitor and didn't rely on a PC being switched on 24x7.
Now afaict neither of them do anything and we're back to dodgy speedtests and subjective opinions 
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I prefer central heating
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Did you ask them if the site is still being updated?
Or did your reply just say "...currently out of the office"! 
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when in actual fact it should be market 3 as 3 LLUs have gone in recently.
have OFCOM reclassified it ?
Phil
MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.
MaxDSL diagnostics
Are your kids pirates ? Limewire, Bearshare, Kazaa, BitTorrent, eMule are all tools of the trade.
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All I said was "hi" Dunno if my domain made the reply any quicker.
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No, but 3LLUs + BT as wholesale = 4. Therefore Market 3, currently showing as market 2.
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No, but 3LLUs + BT as wholesale = 4. Therefore Market 3, currently showing as market 2. Not necessarily. The latest OfCom consultation document on upgrades to Market 3 is dated August 2010, and your exchange is not listed. It shows as staying as Market 2.
Upgrades are by OfCom declaration, not an automatic status trigger. I think there is also a number of connections factor.
When did TT enable it? Samknows doesn't give a date, but Sky was July 2010.
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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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I don't think it's a dynamic process though, OFCOM produce a list and update it periodically. Otherwise pricing would be a bit chaotic.
Phil
MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.
MaxDSL diagnostics
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How about trying "Hi - can you say if SamKnows is still being updated?"
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My exchange was enabled sometime over Christmas an New Year I think, I've always checked to see if there was any possibility and there didn't seem to be.
Some time ago the Sky checker was telling me that our exchange (WNHOL) was due an upgrade in 3 months, however this seemed the same for most exhanges in the country so it was hard to believe.
I tried the Sky checker in Jan and it was telling me that the exchange had been enabled, checked Samknows and it was saying it wasn't, contacted them and they said they would contact Sky for info, and they did say that it might take some time to get a reply from Sky, Samknows has been updated now but there is no enablement date on it.
My connection went live yesterday, started off with a sync of 4095 downstream but today I'm already on 16382 so it's looking good
"edit" I have to say that Samknows responded quickly to my request when I asked if exchange was enabled, I think it was the same day and did reply to me in follow on email
Edited by deleted (Thu 13-Jan-11 10:56:55)
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last year APR 2010, but then the date fell off, and now its back on. not clear as to why
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That's good to hear, but I wonder what would have happened without a specific enquiry from you?
Maybe they did get a list from Sky of other new ones, and at least they didn't say they've not got time.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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Hi all,
Just to clarify, SamKnows is still being updated. We will happily answer any questions you have if directed to [email protected]
We did recently receive an update from Sky, hence this has been updated in the last week.
Kind regards,
SamKnows Team
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Thanks for that.
However, how come the OfCom Consultation Document of last August lists many exchanges which do not have the the 3 LLU plus BT Wholesale requirement according to your site, and we know of people on C & W LLU where their exchange doesn't appear.
That's what triggered the original "concerned" post . Sorry I can't give you a list as when they came up on here I wasn't recording them, and I'm only talking of half-a-dozen or so.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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I wish I could answer your question regarding the Ofcom Classification document, but we didn't have any involvement in the report, and hence can't answer the questions, ideally they should be directed to Ofcom.
With regards to C&W LLU, I'll speak with them directly and ask for updated lists.
Not everything on the website is automated, so we are occassionally reliant of other people providing the information, hence sometimes things take longer than we might like.
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you see any errors, please do email us, because without feedback we cannot look to improve the site.
We do attempt to respond to every email which comes into the website, regarding any matter, including the performance monitoring trial, so if you are having problems with this, the data isn't reporting or similar, again please do contact us. We are here to help.
Many thanks,
SamKnows Team
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I wish I could answer your question regarding the Ofcom Classification document, but we didn't have any involvement in the report, and hence can't answer the questions, ideally they should be directed to Ofcom. One assumes that their proposed M3 ones have 4 suppliers, but samknows shows fewer. That was my point . With regards to C&W LLU, I'll speak with them directly and ask for updated lists.
Not everything on the website is automated, so we are occassionally reliant of other people providing the information, hence sometimes things take longer than we might like. Understood. Thanks. As I mentioned in my previous post, if you see any errors, please do email us, because without feedback we cannot look to improve the site. Will do in future .
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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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It would be a good idea to register on this forum in order to answer any queries and posts that might occur in the future.
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The SamKnows website certainly is still being updated.
Sky have finally gotten round (oops; an Americanism too far) to enabling our exchange (just had a letter through from Sky this morning) and the SamKnows site has already been updated to that effect.
Ade
ADSL2+ with BE
DL Sync around 4.8Mbps
UL Sync 1088kbps
DG834GT with DGTeam firmware
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The SamKnows website certainly is still being updated.
Sky have finally gotten round (oops; an Americanism too far) to enabling our exchange (just had a letter through from Sky this morning) and the SamKnows site has already been updated to that effect. See the reason why it has been updated , in this post and this one.
I think as the poster says, with it not being an automatic feed to them, (as I believe the BT one is, or at least used to be), there can be a lag.
Quite a long one until the latest flurry.
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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - O2 Standard.
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Quite a long one until the latest flurry.
Well that's certainly true; SamKnows is showing FTTC availability on 1st June, whereas the BT Wholesale checker reckons 1st July, so it is taking a while to get some of the updates through.
Ade
ADSL2+ with BE
DL Sync around 4.8Mbps
UL Sync 1088kbps
DG834GT with DGTeam firmware
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Showing my exchange as 1 March, which is what it went to on BTW from 31 Dec before disappearing altogether. Then it went to 31 Jan on BTW and Infinity about a week ago and the same in the middle of the week ... checks it hasn't gone back to March ....
Oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Decision time! Available Now.
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