New TT LLU exchanges

Was reading through a article on isp review

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/story/2011/09/27/talktalk...

where the figure of TT 90% coverage came up, went and checked Sam knows and found my excahnge to have a date this year, along with 3 other exchanges in my county.

Of the 4 announced 3 have had no LLu or 21CN from BT (THHRJ/ THP/THLM) , the 4th exchange (THWN) has a 21CN date. I am wondering if the other 3 that will be enabled by TT will also be upgraded by BT for 21CN, as it would be the preffered upgrade.

Other issue is to actually go to a talk talk package considering the amount of complaints etc about their service.

Currently get about 5 meg down outside of peak hours so speed is pretty gd, but a improved service would be welcomed. I know there are re-sellers of TT product how good are they. Pay about 23 a month to Orange on their Unlimited home package.

Don�t hold your breath! The exchange I use WNNN (MRK2) was unbundled with SKY and TT just over a year ago, I would have thought 21cn would follow although smaller exchanges either side me have RFS dates set for 21cn WNLNS (MRK1) and WNWPL (MRK2).

Though I should not complain to much about BT I have good conection for what i can get, Attenuation of 42 and always around 6-6.3 meg down regardless of peaks.

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Tue 27-Sep-11 18:24:09)

This is quite surprising. I know TT have been talking about 80~90% coverage for some time but I did not expect so many small exchanges in Kent to be enabled.

The good thing is this should also mean Market 2 pricing which should save a few £'s. Although saying that my mum's current ISP and package don't qualify for this pricing.

Support and Billing are always of concern with TT but price for some comes first.

This should also bring (cheaper) fibre optic business services to these rural exchanges which will be a massive benefit for rural business.

see this thread:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/which_isp/f/4047280...

This should also bring (cheaper) fibre optic business services to these rural exchanges which will be a massive benefit for rural business.

Curious: What fibre-optic business services use the CPW LLU backhaul?
Our local exchange only has CPW as a LLU provider, and BT won't offer fibre-optic services in our town, not even as leased lines.

EFM would be an option but that's not fibre and TTB don't offer it on all exchanges and notable, some/most rural exchanges don't have this option.

Matt

Refuse or are charging so much no-one wants to do it?

All too often sales staff are not aware of all the options.

TalkTalk business for one.

CPW is TalkTalk.

TalkTalk should be able to offer fibre based leased lines at any exchange they have Unbundled.

I've actually had a call back about a quote I've requested for a point-to-point 100Mbps (WEES). They will be calling back later to quote prices which I hope will be less than going to BT direct.

So if you wanted a 100M circuit how would it be provided?

Simple answer is by Openreach using fibre. To be honest I don't know but I am hoping pricing is better than going to BT direct, otherwise what's the point in other providers reselling it.

BT refuses to offer any fibre-optic leased lines services from the local exchange, though it is quite possible that their sales staff was simply ignorant. Normal broadband products always tend to miss out on decent upload speeds and are therefore not always sufficient for business users.

Edited by deleted (Wed 28-Sep-11 23:13:50)

Well ive recived information that BT have another 4 exchanges to enabled for 21CN, though there not saying until there press release this week.

So looking hopefull at current, other largest exchanges would be likely for BT to reach their 90% target.

You don't have to use that exchange though, leased lines can be many miles long and come from another exchange, all down to price you will pay.

Hope you get it soon, its the opposite for me in sunny Wales it seems, although i do admire BTs spin in Wales.

" The work will give speeds of upto 20mbps which is more than double the speed the maxium speed currently avaiable"!

True to a point however 5 of the 7 exchanges listed in the main article already have established LLU services with upto 24mbps, I think BT forgot "from us".


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-...

Not BT, but the journalists everywhere, or have assumed no-one can get ADSL2+.

True, lazy journalism, however it was lifted directly from the BT statement, if you go back to source it�s still misleading on BTs part.

http://www.btplc.com/news/articles/showarticle.cfm?a...

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Thu 29-Sep-11 10:29:41)

Forcing BT to promote the other LLU operators would be unfair though.

A firm will always try and promote its service, BT is past master at missing out the words Openreach and Wholesale, helping to lead people to think BT is the only source.

TalkTalk still has a larger ADSL2+ foot print that BT Wholesale

delete

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Thu 29-Sep-11 10:38:37)

I appreciate the non advertising of competitors; however the inclusion of our customers and future customers of BT, can now achieve this up to speed would more appropriate. I�ve mailed BBC Wales and other online welsh news, over which I believe is a misleading statement and reporting.

As for BT missing out words they are missing out counties and making them up, its very poor, it has Tywyn listed in the county of CAENARFON. Caernarfon is a town, in the county of Gwynedd along with Tywyn. Another email

Edited by NilSatisOptimum (Thu 29-Sep-11 11:41:46)