yea i think you could be right,

plus i'm sure you would get a good deal on one esp with so many of them being retired now..

plus as far as i no they dont have stm or suffer from contention,noise or any of the other factors that wee hear about..


69 p per 100g of pigeon seed = sorted.........

Wireless by default

In reply to a post by mattpearce79:

Did you mean to title this post "Open Retch"? is it a reflection of the service you've received?

Yeah. OTOH it now transpires it's BTw who are to blame.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

zeb - why dont you arrange to be onsite when the engineer calls and then you can show him how to locate the fault seeing as it is so easy?? you can even show him how to use the tdr.

Well, I would, except.....

(a) I have my own business to run, and (unlike BT) I am fully trained in what I do, whereas most BTO blokes have trouble working out which end of a screwdriver to hold, and....

(b) It's unlikley that the BTO bloke would have a TDR on the van - it would leave no room for the lunch box and mattress. Apparently the guy turned up at my neighbour's yesterday, and he guessed at a few things which might be causing the problem, and replaced them. None of them were connect. My neighbour isn't totally despondant..... he now only has one master socket, where previously he somehow had two (?), and is now the owner of a filtered faceplate, so that he gets much higher bb sync speeds........ when the line isn't crackling.

Never mind, I suppose Open Wrench will find the line problem, when the line breaks completely !

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

'Open retch' instead of 'Openreach'.

How very clever, we all laughed.

Awww... did someone make a joke about your company ? Your company is a joke.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

If this line is critical to your business what's the back up plan if it goes faulty?

I expect he has one - I certainly have, and I've had to use them several times in the past 12 months.

Mine are :

A second ADSL line.
A dial-up modem
2 mobile phones
An Orange 3G dongle and a wall-mounted external antenna.

All (except for the dial-up modem) have had to be used at least 3 times in the last 12 months due to failure of BT's kit.

Edited by deleted (Sat 20-Mar-10 10:15:38)

3g contract or PAYG
Dialup
ADSL - contrary to your outburst, two lines may go down, but as a DSLAM (even if your exchange has a single one) will have multiple line cards the chances of both breaking is less than 100% which you seem to assert.
Satellite
Relocate important functions to another location, perhaps as simple as using web mail from a cafe in the next exchange area.

There is no single panacea, but the solution depends on what someone wants to spend mainly, i.e. how important is broadband access.

Depends on the contract that exists between your comms provider and Openreach. These are negotiable, if your comms provider does not value you enough to suggest SLA arrangements, compensation then perhaps change comms provider, or pay enough to get the personal treatment.

Baiting BT firms is all fun and games, but it achieves nothing constructive.

You hate BT that much ? eeeek.

Can we ask who you work for ... ? I am sure most companies could be classed as jokes but I am guessing if it wasn't for BT you wouldn't have an ADSL connection today.
You could say you don't have a choice.. but can you blame BT for that ?

LOL, not even an Openreach issue if its the DSLAM.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

3g contract or PAYG

Explained why PAYG mobile isnt viable, as to contract why would someone pay for a mobile dongle monthly when the other 99% of time they wont use it?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Dialup

Yeah thata work in a business lets spend the day waiting an hour for the hundred plus morning emails to download.... Ill just upload our new promotional video also....... oh errr slight snag........ ETA to do that 20 hours..... Everyone go home now.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

ADSL - contrary to your outburst, two lines may go down, but as a DSLAM (even if your exchange has a single one) will have multiple line cards the chances of both breaking is less than 100% which you seem to assert.

How does that help a business ran from home? How does it even help if the LINE concerned is the line you have ADSL on and its dead?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Satellite

Yeah we all have hundreds to spend on installing one of them and paying monthly when most of the time when ADSL is working it wont be used

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Relocate important functions to another location, perhaps as simple as using web mail from a cafe in the next exchange area.

What??? Yep ill send an employee to do that now, they can then travel back and forth over several miles handing me emails throughout the day. Mind you they will probably love that, nip out shopping while there without me knowing, take an extended lunch break, oh and ill have to find them a 50 quid to dose them up with coffee throughout the day see the cafe owner doesnt get annoyed at them just sitting there fiddling with a laptop.

Great idea, why didnt the small business man think of this years ago :rolleyes:

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

There is no single panacea, but the solution depends on what someone wants to spend mainly, i.e. how important is broadband access.

So in other words there is no real emergency back up plan you can offer, the cafe idea is stupid (thats my opinion) and your other ideas involve paying money monthly for a service you wont use most of the time and in the satelite example would cost more than ADSL you regularly use.

I hope you never run a small business, you will bankrupt it inside 6 months loading the office up with tech which is a waste of money.

As i suspected it was random BT defending and nobody has a VIABLE idea for a sensible backup plan where you dont have to spend an additional wad of cash over the course of a year, on tech you wont normally use.

ALL YOUR IDEAS are only really viable if you are a large business which has hundreds free each year to spend........ For the other 99% of business in this country which is small business, it will cripple them.