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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 15:41:25
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Re: Problems with FAX


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Does redcare require the orange bell wire to be connected? I've noticed in the master NTE upstairs, it is connected to both sides.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 16:10:31
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I actually don't know the answer to that. Most things don't these days.

What do you mean by "connected to both sides"?
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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 16:31:07
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When i took the lower half of the master socket off, there were 2 sets of 3 wires crimped in two separate 'bits', I presume these are two extensions but this didn't disconnect the extension in the office, but could still be inducing noise into A and B wires.


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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 17:25:48
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So how is the office extension connected? Directly to the incoming terminals at the rear of the backplate?
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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 17:45:05
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That's the question, I guess it must be but I can't tinker again now until Monday, and next time I need to get them to suspend Redcare monitoring because alarm co called as I inadvertanty disconnected the alarm (it appears to be an extension).

I don't know where else the line would be picked up from, I need to remove the bell wire from the office extension as removing one end isn't enough.

I've discovered another problem with a high number of errors on the dsl which I previously considered as normal, Line B which has been enabled today connects 1.5meg faster and has no HEC or FEC errors.
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(deleted) Fri 10-Sep-10 17:50:25
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Not that it would be legal to do so - if it is connected to the rear of the backplate (the incoming A and B terminals) I'd disconnect it from there and attach it to the faceplate.

Simple enough job with a cheapo punch down tool. Although - didn't you mention something about it having a dual outlet faceplate - or was that on line B?

Maybe a couple of photos - of faceplate and wiring to faceplate might shed some light.

And yep the redcare will be wired in as an extension.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sat 11-Sep-10 20:08:35
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The link to the BT92A (Redcare block by the alarm panel) *should* be via a single direct pair terminated on the rear incoming points of the NTE, so that it can't be diconnected by the removal of the faceplate.

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(deleted) Sat 11-Sep-10 20:44:54
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Zarjaz - if you read the post above my last one you will note that the OP states that the redcare is curently connected as an extension to the faceplate.

It is an extension socket connected to the A & B incomer terminals.

Clearly not right.

It makes sense to connect the redcare to the A & B incomers so that you can mess around with your internal wiring without triggering the monitoring alert. It's hardly a security thing though - far easier to spend a moment with a pair of wire snips than mess around with a screwdriver removing the faceplate if you have a nefarious reason for disconnecting the redcare.
Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Sat 11-Sep-10 23:04:31
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In reply to a post by GeeTee:
far easier to spend a moment with a pair of wire snips than mess around with a screwdriver removing the faceplate if you have a nefarious reason for disconnecting the redcare.
Snip the Redcare connection and the alarm goes off at the police station. Just like it did when they took the faceplate off in this case.

@Zarjaz - Doesn't there need to be a filter at the alarm control box though?

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Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 11-Sep-10 23:16:34
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Yes there should be a filter in the alarm panel.

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