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In reply to a post by orly:

You just need to learn how to set things up. A few minutes on google would get you started for goodness sake.

Utter nonsense BT torrent throttling can not be bypassed via torrent client options including enabling protocol encryption.

In reply to a post by orly:

The throttling and monitoring systems ISPs use are far from a perfect system. As we all know, this makes it rather less than infallible.

The only way around it is via a VPN or similar service, which is pointless on a FTTC service as using one you will never get anywhere near to the 20-40Mb speeds many get from FTTC

In reply to a post by orly:

In any event, use newsgroups and you don't even need to bother thinking about it. All this P2P stuff is akin to arguing about whether to use a Pentium 4 or an Athlon when everyone in the know has an i7...

Or in other words its not that easy to bypass their throttle or you would need to recommend people pay for a newsgroup service.

Or in the other words you can go read and learn how to set up your system properly or you can sit and gripe anonymously on an internet forum about something you can easily get around or just bypass entirely.

If you're the original poster, you asked a question and have got an answer. If you don't like it or don't agree that's up to you. But then the question is - why bother posting a thread in the first place? (if you aren't the OP, ignore this)

As I said before, you're mopeing about something that isn't actually an issue. What is it you're downloading via Bit Torrent that is so time critical anyway?

Edited by orly (Mon 18-Oct-10 00:53:45)

hmm meant to edit not reply again! ignore/

Edited by orly (Mon 18-Oct-10 00:53:13)

I think the question is: How far away are you from your local BT Cabinet?

Be - 24mbps* Stable Speeds most (if not all the time usually)
BT - 40mbps* Stable Speeds in non-peak times but can (and usually does) noticeably fluctuate in peak times.

*Subject to line length.

Or in the other words you can go read and learn how to set up your system properly or you can sit and gripe anonymously on an internet forum about something you can easily get around or just bypass entirely.

Ill repeat.......

Utter nonsense BT torrent throttling can not be bypassed via torrent client options including enabling protocol encryption.

That is fact, of course feel free to disprove it with a screen cap of you running a torrent at your full 25Mb FTTC speed.

In reply to a post by orly:

If you're the original poster, you asked a question and have got an answer. If you don't like it or don't agree that's up to you. But then the question is - why bother posting a thread in the first place? (if you aren't the OP, ignore this)

Im not the OP, im a poster telling the OP who wants torrents to avoid BT FTTC because for torrents its throttled rubbish.

In reply to a post by orly:

As I said before, you're mopeing about something that isn't actually an issue. What is it you're downloading via Bit Torrent that is so time critical anyway?

Too bad its not only torrents they throttle but P2P traffic, which can indeed be time critical, example some game updates........ Oh no sorry thats not time critical, you can wait a week to play your game.

NOTE :

BT linit P2P for ONLY part of the day

Last time I checked it is slow from 4.00pm to approx 2am (evenings) at all other times it is full speed

So I uses it during the early morning and day time and do other things in the evenings

This is the BT Policy

HOWEVER : if you really need to use it (during busy times) then you can use an encrypted connection or move you connection to a different (unused) port address (from the standard ones) - this is not quite so fast (due to overheads) but much faster than the limited rates (typically 50kbs)

Also DO NOT uses UPnP - the overheads are massive (which ISPs don't like) and will generally slow the real transfer rate by 50% - bea sensible and minimise you demands and the ISPs might be more sensible. - I also note that BT do allow short periods of P2P during the slower times for files upto a few hundred megabytes - sensible as it allows "necessary" transferes but stops continuous P2P xfreres 24/7 which some do and spoil it for everyone else

P2P can be excellent if used resposibly and I STRESS responsibily then ISPs might be more generous.

It is imposible for ANY ISP to monitor or block P2P on every port no. - especially as some port nos MUST NOT be even monitored - so the ISPs should provide sensible Bandwidth (after all the limits are imposed by "Software / Hardware" that is unable to cope with massive useage and as a result we all suffer.

My BT commection gives my 300Gb / month (10 per day) for most people this is more than enough - most people use lest tha 1Gb (30Gb/M) / even when using their Video services - so there is (in normal circumstance) loads to spare

Personally the way BT does it is pretty resonable - perhaps they should charge users to run P2P during busy times - so if some people want to aduse what is available then they should "contribute" tioward the deamds on the BT system

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Also DO NOT uses UPnP - the overheads are massive (which ISPs don't like) and will generally slow the real transfer rate by 50%

This is wrong. UPnP in the manner being referred to does not extend outside of your internal network. Your ISP does not know or care whether you're using UPnP to port forward; externally it looks the same as setting up forwards manually.

Maybe you're referring to something else? DHT perhaps? Even then, that uses very little traffic so I doubt they'd care.

Edited by deleted (Fri 20-Jan-12 13:25:52)