FTTC rollout rural areas are getting progress than urban

apart from the odd city at the bottom of the economic league most of the activity looks to be in towns and cities to me. I can drive 20 minutes one way to FTTC in a city, or half an hour the other way to it going into a (very) small town, but all the ruralness in between is an FTTC free zone.

think of the savings if they aren't poncing around with fancy graphics all day

It is the NIMBY effect but in reverse

And do you know why?

Because they cherry pick the very best areas. They also have great social media marketing and people actively refer each other to the ISP.

we have been through this many times.
you still not thinking out of the box if you think that a broadband connection can only be used for light www email use or for torrenting.

check the cities in the eastern part of the country (not the south east).

so north east
east midlands
norfolk
south west.

and rural getting more progress is not saying there is no urban rollout but more that this divide is closing, I am not just talking about BT's rollout either but also the fact various rural areas are having projects funded outside of BT.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 08-Feb-11 19:48:41)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

we have been through this many times.
you still not thinking out of the box if you think that a broadband connection can only be used for light www email use or for torrenting.

it would appear I'm not the only one failing to 'think outside of the box' since you have apparently had to dodge the question. Same ol' same ol. No-one ever can ever give a good answer.

In reply to a post by krazykizza:

Because they cherry pick the very best areas. They also have great social media marketing and people actively refer each other to the ISP.

That and running at a loss

I'm not saying it's easy and it's not cheap. I'm just pointing out that 1:1 is not a requirement for an ISP to offer a service that never slows down. If Be was 1:1 it'd be far more than £20pcm.

Edited by Andrue (Tue 08-Feb-11 20:16:27)

In reply to a post by yarwell:

It's all the more impressive given that Be attracts people

doesn't attract many people though, does it. Is it making any money yet ?

I'm sure it's a wonderful service but it never got anywhere in marketing or business terms. O2 is little better despite throwing money at it.

Agreed but that's not the point I was refuting. I just wanted to correct the idea that residential ISPs have to offer 1:1 contention in order to provide a service that doesn't slow down.

Unfortunately Be/O2's lack of success is just yet more evidence of how little appetite there is in the UK for a dependable high-speed service. It's not like I'm paying a huge amount. I pay less than £20pcm to Be and only another £13 to BT. £33 pcm doesn't seem unreasonable to me for a service that runs at full speed 24/7/365. It's be a helluva lot more if it was actually 1:1. Unfortunately it is clearly too much for most people.

Edited by Andrue (Tue 08-Feb-11 20:14:42)

answer the question as to why people would need more than 4mbit (adsl average). or more than 448kbit upload.

live streaming
multiple use
interactive downloading
online applications
VOD
IPTV
file sharing (uploads)
online backups (uploads)
movie downloads
game downloads

the latter 2 can argue speed isnt needed as can leave pc on overnight or whatever, but some people may want to download within a reasonable time frame without sucking up electric for hours on end.

is also about internet commerce and online working in general, BT's rollout does have social discrimination about it and I can forsee situations where people are been interviewed on working from home job's where a question be asked on what type of connectivity they have. (as already happens in other countries that are way ahead of us on internet development). The uk isnt just behind on connectivity it is behind on working from home and internet business.

What is backward thinking and is a prime reason why the uk is weak now econimically is we have a mindset in this country that money should only be spent when proven returns, and not on future proofing ie. only when there is already a need, this puts us behind all the time. Whilst other countries just get on with it.

Edited by Chrysalis (Tue 08-Feb-11 21:13:49)