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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 17-Nov-11 15:42:37
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Did you use cat5 cable for the extensions previously though?
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(deleted) Thu 17-Nov-11 15:52:57
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Probably not. So cat5 cable is the same as network cable? I would be guaranteed not to lose sync speed.

I really am tempted to fix the existing cable, if I mess up my first phone line I would just cancel that phone line and get a new one in with the new cable they would be putting in.
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 17-Nov-11 16:27:27
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In order to guarantee 100% no reduction in sync and throughput speed you would have to put the router as close as possible to the new NTE5 then run the extension as an ethernet (data) connection to your computer. If that is not convenient then the adsl signal together with the filtered voice signal sent along 2 pairs of a cat5 to a suitably located dual socket would probably minimize any loss of sync. That would require a filtered faceplate on the nte5, such as the pressac http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pressac-NTE5-compatible-filt... with the adsl connected to the A&B terminals and voice connected to the 2&5 terminals on the back of the faceplate.

Alternatively, you could run unfiltered voice and adsl along one pair of the cat5 from the master NTE5 to a filter/splitter socket on the other end of an extension but that perhaps might not be so good.

Sorry I still feel uneasy about your intention to mess with the existing master nte5 since BT/OR engineers might still need to check your current wiring...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 17-Nov-11 16:40:24
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I am sorry you feel uneasy about my intention to fix the existing cable but I am going to go ahead anyway. What is the name of the plate which BT fit to the two wires coming from the gray cable. (is it the NTE5 faceplace?) I will buy one tomorrow, (could you please provide a link where to buy one) and fit the phone line myself.

Thanks.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:00:40
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BT gray cable do you mean cable from the outside, i.e. telephone exchange. That is the NTE5 socket.

The removeable part, which you are allowed to play with a faceplate.

Sourcing a genuine Openreach part, complete with logos is the challenge

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:04:11
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Yes I meant the BT gray cable from the outside. Would the NTE5 socket have to be Openreach branded? Surely someone somewhere sells these things. Would my local electrical wholesaler sell them?
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:09:09
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Just to be 100% clear about this: do you want to fit a master NTE5 (e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/NTE5a-BT-section-connection-... ) to the currently unused pair at a point were the wire is undamaged? If that grey cable is officially exchange side of the current master NTE5 then I definitely wouldn't mess with it.
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(deleted) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:12:44
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
Just to be 100% clear about this: do you want to fit a master NTE5 (e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/NTE5a-BT-section-connection-... ) to the currently unused pair at a point were the wire is undamaged? If that grey cable is officially exchange side of the current master NTE5 then I definitely wouldn't mess with it.


Yes that is correct.

If I dont do this then BT have to dig the road up and drill a hole in my home. The BT man said its costing BT £1000 to do these works if I go ahead. I would be saving BT money doing it my way.

I am also peed off BT wont atempt to fix the broken pair in my hallway, and instant on getting the diggers out.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:12:55
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Openreach or BT logo branded, if not they know it was not fitted by them, and after future fault visit may incur a regularisation charge.

If you mess up the wiring job and BT felt the need for a new drop wire, then can bill you for the cost too, i.e. if not sure about what you are doing and not using genuine parts the risk of a you or a future resident having issues are higher.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 17-Nov-11 17:26:49
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Personally I would be happy with 2 new pairs to my external junction box BT66 (and a single pair within external quality cat5 on to the NTE5) because the originals have been there nearly 40 years and do seem rather brittle smile
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