What I find odd is that most people on this forum who are windows users appeared to have updated to windows 8. So either they buying new pc/laptops every 1-2 years and hence got windows 8 via OEM or brought it retail (or pirated).

Yet on worldwide adoption windows 7 towers over windows 8.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I don't think you understand the reasons behind Win 8 tbh.

I don't know if Chrysalis does, but I certainly don't!

(NB:- I'm not including all of the "back-stage" techy stuff (which appears faster), but the "Front-of-house" "HMI"!

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

One measure of the goodness of an operating system is how well it runs apps. In fact, to me this is the best measure. I've seen nothing to suggest Windows 8 runs apps any worse than Win 7. I've seen many indications that it runs apps better than Win 7. I expect this to continue with Win 9.

Not trying to nit-pick, but I get confused by what is an "App", a "Program" and/or a "Charm"!

On the basis that I thought "Apps" were these Metro-style things that were basically introduced for Win-8, then your above comment is not surprising!

How is it rot? I can deploy and customise a Windows 8 machine so that the only time you get near "metro" is on the start screen, anything else you do is redirected to the Desktop.

As I always revert to asking please can you give a proper reason why Windows 8 is worse than Windows 7? You have not yet provided me with one tbh. I have told you you can disable charms and actually even Metro IE isn't bad in Windows 8.1 you know.

Also, have you ever used a Windows 7 tablet? Then you may see why Windows 8 came along. Not only this, you can dock a Windows 8 tablet onto a desktop setup and get an exactly identical seamless UI which works perfect across touch, keyboard, and mouse. Anyone who is a true power user (i.e., relies heavily on keyboard shortcuts) would soon discover Windows 8 is far superior in that regard too. So when I hear "I was good at such and such OS in the 80s but Windows 8 is terrible", then that makes me start wondering too.

Sorry, but all these criticisms are just silly......

App and Program is actually the same (but you may calls Apps metro Apps and programs stuff that runs on the desktop), charms are the bars that pop out from either sides when you move mouse into the corner, or swipe from edge if a tablet.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I have never heard of one single business who considers a UI change as a good thing. At the very least a certiantly employees would be disrupted temporarily whilst adapting.

Yeah, because all businesses started out using Windows 95 didn't they? I mean like no business could have possibly any computers before 1995 because that would have meant they would have had to change UI at some point, and they don't like doing that, right?

Stop making silly comments.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

What I find odd is that most people on this forum who are windows users appeared to have updated to windows 8. So either they buying new pc/laptops every 1-2 years and hence got windows 8 via OEM or brought it retail (or pirated).

Yet on worldwide adoption windows 7 towers over windows 8.

In my case I was extremely unfortunate to have both my main PC & my Laptop fail within a couple of months of each other!

Since I work away a lot, I didn't have too much time chasing the faults - hence invested in new machines.

The PC I got both by CyberPower & had a choice between Win-8 & Win-7. On the basis that that I should try to keep up to date, I went for Win-8. Unfortunately I hadn't checked availability of Drivers & discovered that my All-in-One Printer didn't have Win-8 Drivers available - hence also a new Printer.

For my new Laptop I again didn't have much time & (reluctantly) simply bought one from PC World where I didn't get the choice.

In reply to a post by johnjburness:

Under Win 8, various programs are now presented as Full-Screen "Metro-Apps", which prevent you from, apparently, working on anything else (no longer can easily access other windows, Task-Bar etc).

If Win 9 makes them "behave" as a proper window (i.e. Resizable, still access other windows & Task-Bar etc), then that has to be a sensible approach!

You are gettin it all wrong my friend! (don't be offended, we'll work on this!)

These apps aren't supposed to be used interchangably, if you are multitasking - stay in the desktop. If you want to be immersed in a single app, then open a metro app.

NO IMPORTANT PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED IN WINDOWS 8 - therefore you must be deliberately opening these Metro versions of whatever apps. Open the desktop versions of those apps, and you don't ever need to go into Metro (which as it happens is called Modern UI or Immersive UI) again.

Microsoft provides you with the ability to customise, so, for example, you can set IE to always open in the desktop, that should be the only real configuration change you need to make.

Please please please just try this concept out, do a few of those customizations, you should never need to be bothered by Metro in Windows 8 if you don't want to be, whilst still enjoying all the other benefits of Windows 8.

Edited by Pipexer (Thu 16-Jan-14 17:59:08)

In reply to a post by Pipexer:

NO IMPORTANT PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED IN WINDOWS 8

But, but, but!!!!

I've really got to strongly disgree with you!

They removed the VERY IMPORTANT Freecell & Solitaire!!

The available substitutions (Metro-Style) are rubbish!!

In reply to a post by johnjburness:

They removed the VERY IMPORTANT Freecell & Solitaire!!

Oh no! I may have to reconsider my decision...