If you can make a business model work in the UK where its �12 per month for 1 Gbps then please do tell everyone

A lot of the connectivity comes out of FTTB community schemes that got buildings online

I didn't say it was possible, I was just saying that other countries have managed to do it, so why can't we in a better off country?

Edited by deleted (Sat 25-Mar-17 17:15:28)

If you live in the right place you can have symmetric Gigabit in the UK, I guess given that people are not fighting over moving into those locations and paying over the odds for property, suggests that many are happy where they are.

Some of course have done something about it, the B4RN project

UK would most likely be very different if the cable roll-outs of the 80's and 90's had not happened, or if they did but BT was allowed to start building residential FTTP which it was looking at doing back then to set itself up as a cable TV competitor

Labour costs are a big reason why more has not happened in the UK too

Thanks for explaining. I think we're doing ok, but like I've mentioned before, we should've started this rollout (both Openreach and BDUK) earlier but hopefully in the coming years everyone will receive a superfast and stable connection. I've heard that people who don't receive a reliable service is now being compensated. About time!

Edited by deleted (Sat 25-Mar-17 17:27:51)

2009 was when BDUK was created, the same year Openreach was allowed to start deploying its superfast network, i.e. Ofcom rules about the competition with cable had hamstrung them till then

As for the 'reliable service' comment, you may not be aware but the PROPOSED compensation plan only covers total loss of service, and not intermittent or slow service

Yes, I understand it's loss of service.

If your local cabinet gets picked for g.fast there is a chance network rearrangement might occur anyway as to increase coverage of properties from cabinet deployed g.fast, dont ask me how I know just that I know. Presumably any vdsl services would benefit as it wouldnt be cost effective to just pick g.fast pairs.

The prime reason openreach will never officially do network rearrangement on request is obviously that once word spreads before they know it everyone is asking for and expecting it. We know it gets done occasionally but I think that usually only happens after escalation to a high enough level, on severely underperforming lines as a last resort (when other options exhausted) or if the press is involved. Also wouldnt surprise me if its done in BDUK areas so they can hit BDUK targets.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 01-Apr-17 02:47:09)

Gfast will only be deployed where its commercially viable to do so -- having to do network rearrangement to enable Gfast would make it not viable so can't see why anyone would want to do that

I think its unusual for halogen lighting to cause radio noise, unless there is a dimmer, or a fault.
it it were me, I would set up logging of some form of the signal/noise on the line, and maybe somehow monitor when the light were on.
I would also look into better filtering on the phone line.- but would be best to find and fix the source of the electrical/radio noise fault

In reply to a post by ggremlin:

I think its unusual for halogen lighting to cause radio noise, unless there is a dimmer, or a fault.
it it were me, I would set up logging of some form of the signal/noise on the line, and maybe somehow monitor when the light were on.
I would also look into better filtering on the phone line.- but would be best to find and fix the source of the electrical/radio noise fault

I have seen some cheap halogen lighting that used a very cheap PSU which took out half the HF Band.
Its the same with those Power Line Ethernet Adaptors, some of those cheap ones are terrible.

So its all down to how cheap you go.

Paul