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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Mar-17 21:04:26
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[re: djfunkdup] [link to this post]
 
I am just getting prepared for FTTC due tomorrow. laugh

Tim
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 26-Mar-17 21:16:33
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I seriously hope that's a joke...

Edited by deleted (Sun 26-Mar-17 21:17:15)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 26-Mar-17 22:36:04
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[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
I hope all goes well Tim smile.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 26-Mar-17 22:38:12
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Cheers Bob, according to the Uno control panel it is set for morning, but welcome email said it could be anytime.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
Asus DSL-N55U and TP-Link WD9970 on 80 Meg LLU Fibre
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Mar-17 11:11:16
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[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Fingers crossed all goes according to plan Tim.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 27-Mar-17 14:47:54
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Re: Errored seconds and cables.


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Hi

In reply to a post by Banger:
I bought myself a 2m twisted pair shielded RJ11 modem lead from Tandy and was expecting big things as I only had the straight pair RJ11 modem lead supplied with my Billion 7800.

But when I changed the cable the sync was 200kbps lower than previously. I changed the cable at 1pm today so would have expected the same sort of sync but one good thing is the upstream attainable has increased.

Also what amount of Errored seconds per hour is acceptable, currently running at 20 on the downstream per hour although it did at one stage go up to 120es/h. Upstream is negligible.

Any ideas?


What you need to remember is the signal has traveled hundreds of metres in cheap telephone cable, why would adding 2 metres of premium cable at the end improve things?

The only time one of these more expensive cables will help is if you have a long run of many metres, even then any old cheap twisted pair will do (it doesn't need to be expensive), just avoid the flat telephone extension cable as because it isn't twisted any noise it picks up is harder to cancel out.

There are all sorts of things that go on with VDSL/ADSL, an improvement could see slightly worse errors simply because power output can be reduced due to an improvement and/or now receiving a fewer higher frequencies that by definition have more errors, but then over a few hours bit-swapping should sort those out.

Regards

Phil
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Mar-17 16:40:24
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Well VDSL2 has been enabled but still using my Xilo login, but only getting 47meg sync down and 12 up. Wonder if changing the faceplate will make a difference as I am paying for 80/20 but only getting 40/10?

PS Swapped the tandy cable for the Billion cable and got an extra meg.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
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Edited by Banger (Mon 27-Mar-17 16:41:05)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 27-Mar-17 16:51:31
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[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
What do your line stats now say?

And no, you are not getting a 40/10 service you are getting the 80/20 service, just that your line cannot fully support it. If you are only getting 47/12 and stats show very little more is possible then you should be asking your ISP for a downgrade to either 55/10 or 40/10


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 27-Mar-17 16:55:57
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Line Status:Connected
DSL Modulation Type:VDSL2
Annex Type:Annex A/L
Upstream Downstream
Current Rate (Kbps) 12604 47261
Max Rate (Kbps) 12597 47746
SNR Margin (dB) 6 6.1
Line Attenuation (dB) 35.7 14.7
Errors (Pkts) 0 0

Tried the HG612 but around the same sync.

Tim
www.uno.net.uk & freenetname
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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Mon 27-Mar-17 17:08:15
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[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
With those stats you are not going to see much more - talk to you ISP about moving down. Yes you might be then capped at 40/10 but from 47 to 40 you may not notice a difference.

the 14.7 attenuation would normally give speeds up in the 70s so the 47 is a little surprising and having a 6.1dB margin suggests a noisy line potentially from cross talk.

Can you run DSLstats and get a set of graphs including the Bitloading with SNR overlay, QLN and Hlog.


What are the DSL checker figures? I seem to remember them being fairly wide.


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