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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Sep-19 10:19:43
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jchamier:
The IP not working doesn't make sense, as your port forwarding on the router is sending the traffic to the server on that IP.

If it's not timing out, it could be that the web server will only serve the relevant page when accessed via hostname, depending on the virtualhost configuration it has.

Oliver.
Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Sep-19 10:37:00
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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Yes, I assumed firewall was OK as I can access from outside.

I have a router that does NAT loopback, just wanted to know if there was another way if the TG588V doesn't.


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG588V v2

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Sep-19 10:37:05
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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If it's not timing out, it could be that the web server will only serve the relevant page when accessed via hostname, depending on the virtualhost configuration it has.

Of course, thanks.

Easy to fix on a Win/Mac/Linux computer by editing the hosts file, but not easy for Android / iOS. The problem is finding out if a router does NAT loopback before buying is hard. As it is not a feature many people use. It is probably quite complex to engineer.

I assume Draytek models support it. I haven't tried my Asus.

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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Sep-19 10:38:47
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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All getting a bit complicated.

All I need to know is does the TG588V support NAT loopback and if not is there a way round it.


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG588V v2

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Sep-19 10:40:31
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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It would be nice if manufacturers supplied technical info or if folk on here could advise.

Edit: https://kitz.co.uk/routers/ doesn't even list Technicolor routers. Is there an alternative page I have missed?


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG588V v2

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Edited by hk11 (Sun 22-Sep-19 10:47:15)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Sep-19 11:19:58
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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All I need to know is does the TG588V support NAT loopback and if not is there a way round it.

The problem is how to answer that question. On a Windows/Mac/Linux computer inside your network, try pinging the public IP address or name of your website, and see if it responds.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 22-Sep-19 11:21:39
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Re: Accessing lan from wireless on router


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It would be nice if manufacturers supplied technical info or if folk on here could advise.

People here can only advise on what they know about. I gave up running a server at home, my broadband was too slow upload, and I now buy a cheap Linux virtual server from a hosting company.

Technicolor (formerly Thomson) routers are not popular, and often given away free by ISPs because of their price.

Edit: https://kitz.co.uk/routers/ doesn't even list Technicolor routers. Is there an alternative page I have missed?

You could try the Small Net Builder Forums:
https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/
https://www.snbforums.com/

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Edited by jchamier (Sun 22-Sep-19 11:23:24)

Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-Sep-19 15:11:23
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Yes, I realise people can only advise what they know about, but I assumed the opposite of you because ISPs gave the Technicolor away, folk would know the downside of them?

The main gripe is manufacturers don't give details. The older TG582N supports NAT loopback, so why wouldn't the newer model?

Looking at the sites you gave: thanks.


Keef- Sheerness Kent UK - Shell Energy BB via Technicolor TG588V v2

Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 22-Sep-19 17:07:26
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why wouldn't the newer model?
It's a cheap throwaway router/modem used primarily by bottom of the market ISP's whose customers want little more than to be able to browse, read their e-mail and watch Netflix.
Standard User hk11
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 23-Sep-19 10:31:39
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And the TG582N isn't?


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Previously - NowTV, Plusnet, Sky, EE, New Call Telecom/Fuelbroadband, Virgin/NTL/Bell Cable, Crosswinds, IC24, FreeOnlineNet, X-Stream, Totalise, Freeserve, Force9, TescoNet, AOL, Freenetname, Pipex, E7
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