I�m going to have to disagree with your comments about new DP�s and the truly awful �tool-less� cabs ....... they are pants.

I don't remember that much tech stuff other than remove the bellwire.

What's wrong with toolless? Other than it's gonna be a big RSI claim for the jointers that build them in the years ahead ( there is a reason man invented tools )

They VERY often don�t take.

Unless you have long bulletproof fingernails, you�ll need 81�s to pull the tabs out. (and that damages the tabs)

They provide no additional space.

Not so easy to accurately detect tones.

Have been told they are �good for three terminations only�.

Called �tool less� but you need a flimsy adaptor which isn�t built to last.

Krone .... we had the answer all those years ago.

In reply to a post by Icaras:

tool-less cabinets

Any pictures available of the tool-less connections in the cabinet? I know some people will still consider crimps better than Krone strips when it comes to better made connections but didn't mind either to be honest just wasn't a lover of tag blocks when wrapping the jumper wire around them with 81's.

Rebuilt a 16 vert one last month and my hands still hurt. Use your crimpers to hook them.

There is a definite knack to termination, you get a 'feel' for it. First one we did when they first turned up had many faults, last one no more than normal.

Jumpering is very good. Last 16 vert Quante I did I couldn't trace jumpers on day 1.

The design spec is 100x repeat termination 0.4-0.63mm and 50x 0.8mm (red/blue is 0.8mm - not permissable to subsequent use narrower gauge )

I contacted the product owner on day one and advised they went dis in the back, took 3 times as long to terminate and 3 vert drop was not going to fit many cabs. He advised me it was all engineer pilot error ; )

Krone were good but CSEs don't appear to have tents any more and desiccants are criminally abandoned ( hence PC100 faults ) Krone offers no protection against moisture so they would have to be dipped in grease and the transmission values which are already poorer would worsen.

Holster your solder, Dect, they are using Cobinet LSA-TL terminations now for cabinet and pole top.

OK, thanks for the tip, will give it a go.

I didn�t like Quante either, not enough space round them.

Not encountered an issue with damp affecting Krone like that. And wholeheartedly agree on desi pack removal being a dumb move.

Edited by Zarjaz (Wed 30-Oct-19 18:29:44)

In reply to a post by partial:

Holster your solder

oh joy a gas soldering iron

Edited by deleted (Wed 30-Oct-19 14:14:06)

I did give it a go ..... worked OK, but worked better when there�s no little coloured tab on the port too.

If you�re bored PCP19 Blackwater is sorely in need of sorting out