In reply to a post by troublegum:

The PC does seem to be locked to one SSID but no doubt a call to the IT Helpdesk would resolve this.

My Android mobile phone lets me call the hotspot anything I like. Same for password.

In reply to a post by pluralist:

Thanks. I thought I'd seen something, but wasn't sure.

This is a neat graphic cribbed from a comms provider fact sheet, that sums it up nicely.

Edited by Pheasant (Mon 06-Dec-21 23:53:04)

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by kitcat:

There is a list published

Oh, I'm on the list. Still "no plans for FTTP so I'll just stand out in the rain then.

The list says "CE Fibre Cities - Glasgow", what does "CE" stand for?

Nope. Again taken a cribbed summary, from same CP fact sheet as my post above:

Stop Sell Policy and Product Scope
Stop sell applies at a premises level only where that premise has access to an available GEA-FTTP product. Where a premise has access to FTTP there will be no new supply of other products, CP Transfers, working line takeovers, addition of broadband to voice lines, bandwidth modifications, start of stopped lines or migrations to non-Ultrafast products.
> If a premise has GEA-FTTP available to order, then only GEA-FTTP is available to that premise and instantly become within the scope of stop sell
> If a premise does not have GEA-FTTP available, SOGFAST, SOGEA, GEA-FTTC, SOTAP (where no fibre is available), MPF & WLR (only until September 2023) will be available
The same Stop Sell principles will apply for the fibre exchanges as the Salisbury trial exchange (note: the stop sell principle matrix has changed as a result) see below.
Considerations will also be given to investment policies in the copper network which may include VDSL Cabinet capacity and repairs of the copper network.

In reply to a post by kitcat:

john83

There is a list published that says there are 135+ on Stop sell as at Oct 2021 an that is going up to 455 by August 2022 ( Means they are in the 12 months notice period for the additional ones) 4 have been removed from the original list. that was 459 long.

As for as I could see, the link provided doesn't show those 459 exchanges. How do I get to see that listing please?

Here’s the latest excel spreadsheet. Last update was October.

https://www.openreach.co.uk/cpportal/content/dam/cpp...

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

Oh, I'm on the list. Still "no plans for FTTP so I'll just stand out in the rain then.

Nope. Again taken a cribbed summary, from same CP fact sheet as my post above:

No but yes but. I think I understand I won't lose my POTS next year. My point was that just because your exchange is on the 'stop sell' list, that doesn't mean FTTP is coming to you soon. My exchange is 99% FTTP. I don't expect to have it before stop sell applies here.

That was my initial thoughts whenever I first heard of stop sell: that once an exchange was 'done' you'd be transferred to FTTP and the POTS disabled. But that's not going to happen for a few more years. If ever.

But I really wanted to know what "CE" stands for. All the fibre first / fibre cities exchanges appear to be CE. Something Exchange, Central Exchange? Something to identify a 'head end' exchange?

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

But I really wanted to know what "CE" stands for. All the fibre first / fibre cities exchanges appear to be CE. Something Exchange, Central Exchange? Something to identify a 'head end' exchange?

The only such references listed are “CE Fibre Cities - xxx” and “NI Fibre Cities - yyy” so I’d expect it’s some sort of geographic tranche designation.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

The only such references listed are “CE Fibre Cities - xxx” and “NI Fibre Cities - yyy” so I’d expect it’s some sort of geographic tranche designation.

A big area then! All of Great Britain's Fibre Cities are listed as CE from the south coast of England into Scotland.

And whereas Edinburgh Kirklist is "CE Fibre Cities - Edinburgh", Abbeyhill and Corstorphine exchanges are just City of Edinburgh.

We may never know...

In reply to a post by Woolwich:

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

The only such references listed are “CE Fibre Cities - xxx” and “NI Fibre Cities - yyy” so I’d expect it’s some sort of geographic tranche designation.

A big area then! All of Great Britain's Fibre Cities are listed as CE from the south coast of England into Scotland.

And whereas Edinburgh Kirklist is "CE Fibre Cities - Edinburgh", Abbeyhill and Corstorphine exchanges are just City of Edinburgh.

We may never know...

Possibly historic when they first announced this Fibre Cities programme (I believe it was a promise they made to the DCMS & Opfocm in 2018 to publish a list).

Its kind of irrelevant now anyway as those exchange areas have all been subsumed into their larger national FTTP build-out programme, much like Fibre First Villages & Market Towns or whatever it was called.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Here’s the latest excel spreadsheet. Last update was October.

https://www.openreach.co.uk/cpportal/content/dam/cpp...

Thank you