continued ; We were informed by our neighbour that a) the distance between the poles would be too great and b) the pole had proscriptive rights [having been in place for a very long time] and we were not allowed to move it.
we againasked the engineer how we could get it moved especially by now we had paved the area for my husband,s safety - Heard nothing.

Eventually the neighbour got the MP involved and Kellys came and within 2 weeks moved the post!
now unfortunately Openreach have on their records that we refused to allow them access which is why the neighbour is so cross ,but our request apparently proved to be valid..
He now says the wire is over his barbecue and it might melt. What temperature would melt a cable?

In reply to a post by raupset:

.... this is alongside the pole which we assumed would be moved 20 yards.. yet again we asked for the pole to be moved when the engineer appeared to check the rotten pole again!

A physical relocation or change to an existing Openreach asset would need to be formally requested and may take time to be approved and then actioned. It also may result in a charge to whomever is requesting this.

https://www.openreach.com/building-developers-and-pr...

Was this ever formally requested in writing to Openreach?

That would have to be some barbecue to generate anything like enough heat at the height of the wire above!

In reply to a post by raupset:

Eventually the neighbour got the MP involved and Kellys came and within 2 weeks moved the post!
now unfortunately Openreach have on their records that we refused to allow them access which is why the neighbour is so cross ,but our request apparently proved to be valid..
He now says the wire is over his barbecue and it might melt. What temperature would melt a cable?

Going over old ground about the events that lead to the dispute isn't going to help you or your neighbour, if anything I think its likely to make it worse. If Openreach have it on record that you refused to allow access and thats what your neighbour is so cross about telling them about the maximum span for a pole isn't not going to solve anything. To be honest if it was me I think I would hold my hands up and say to my neighbour I didn't handle the pole issue correctly and regret what happened and hope we can put the issue behind us.

In reply to a post by raupset:

He now says the wire is over his barbecue and it might melt. What temperature would melt a cable?

If the cable terminates on the fascia board of a two storey building, I doubt a barbecue would give off enough heat to damage the cable, but if your neighbour is concerned it maybe he could have the cable terminated at a different point on his building at his expense. Or if he gets an overhead fibre connection in the future maybe be that could terminate at a different point.

Or just move his BBQ a bit

Hi,

https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/FTTP-... talks about the maximum length of an overhead dropwire.

"on ‎10-02-2021 11h09

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Re: FTTP Install underground v overhead
1.1 Span Length Limits

For all new / replaced Dropwires, the maximum dropwire span lengths must not be exceeded when the job is completed.

These are as follows:

68 metres when using an *Eyebolt 1A, Eyebolt 2A or Bracket 22/44/51.
40 metres when using a Bracket 32.
*40 metres when an Eyebolt 1A is fitted to a rendered / harled wall and the Dropwire does not cross any Road / Carriageway. (See Section 4.9.1 for full details.)
Cable Drop Wiring No.15 can be used for spans up to 68 Metres including road crossings.


1.1 Span Length Limits

For all new / replaced Dropwires, the maximum dropwire span lengths must not be exceeded when the job is completed.

These are as follows:

68 metres when using an *Eyebolt 1A, Eyebolt 2A or Bracket 22/44/51.
40 metres when using a Bracket 32.
*40 metres when an Eyebolt 1A is fitted to a rendered / harled wall and the Dropwire does not cross any Road / Carriageway. (See Section 4.9.1 for full details.)
Cable Drop Wiring No.15 can be used for spans up to 68 Metres including road crossings.


1.1.1 Exceptions to the 68m span limit



The only exception to the 68m limit is for Fibre feed cables to a CBT.

In situations where cable installation in existing U/G duct is not economically viable, the alternative is to span a new overhead fibre cable between existing DP Poles, therefore bypassing the damaged U/G section.

However, sometimes the spacing between existing poles may be found longer than 68 metres. Where the above scenarios are encountered and where use of an overhead alternative is required, but not possible as the distance between poles are greater than 68m, the following exceptional span length options may be utilised.

1.1 Span Length Limits

For all new / replaced Dropwires, the maximum dropwire span lengths must not be exceeded when the job is completed.

These are as follows:

68 metres when using an *Eyebolt 1A, Eyebolt 2A or Bracket 22/44/51.
40 metres when using a Bracket 32.
*40 metres when an Eyebolt 1A is fitted to a rendered / harled wall and the Dropwire does not cross any Road / Carriageway. (See Section 4.9.1 for full details.)
Cable Drop Wiring No.15 can be used for spans up to 68 Metres including road crossings.


1.1.1 Exceptions to the 68m span limit



The only exception to the 68m limit is for Fibre feed cables to a CBT.

In situations where cable installation in existing U/G duct is not economically viable, the alternative is to span a new overhead fibre cable between existing DP Poles, therefore bypassing the damaged U/G section.

However, sometimes the spacing between existing poles may be found longer than 68 metres. Where the above scenarios are encountered and where use of an overhead alternative is required, but not possible as the distance between poles are greater than 68m, the following exceptional span length options may be utilised.

This policy applies to Fibre cables feeding CBTs only.

It excludes the following,

Fibre cables beyond the CBT i.e L2C house-end feeds
Creation of new copper span situations greater than 68metres
"

which seems to have come from the Openreach supplier information.

Since most overhead drop wire is made of copper coated steel, then it would need to be a big BBQ to melt it.

It used to be that if a pole was condemmed as not allowed to climb (a D pole) then a no-climb pole would be put in.

I hope that this helps.

Cheers,
Tony