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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Jan-25 13:55:47
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sames.........

They also can borrow my 10m* drop wire if they want !!!!! 😂🙈
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Jan-25 15:43:47
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Would the soundness (pun) of a spare pair from the BT66 to the cabinet also have been checked?


He originally wanted to do a pair swap but as there is only one cable leading from the chamber to my drive post it wouldn't help, cable replacement is the only option, it is the final chamber in the loop.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Jan-25 17:20:45
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[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
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sames.........

They also can borrow my 10m* drop wire if they want !!!!! 😂🙈

No DW to be used UG … not grease filled see.

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Standard User BLaZiNgSPEED
(committed) Tue 28-Jan-25 18:16:57
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Re: Line fault VDSL


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I'm pretty confident they will find his ring trip as it is a fault that is as old as the telephone itself and can be detected even on an old fashioned analogue meter.

Moving to DV on a line with poor insulation is just masking the fault, for a while. Moving to DV on a line that tests okay isn't. These are different faults.
Depends. If the fault only arised recently then they may be able to find the fault. But if the fault was always there from the very beginning then there is little hope in finding the solution.

For example, this famous problem always existed in Dial-Up by design as back then we had modems. My first ADSL 1Mbps service was with Tiscali in 2003 and here where I live in Central London last 32 years this problem always existed! Never found a solution. The solution for me was to simply disconnect the analogue phone and not bother to have it plugged with the master socket.

It persisted till the very end. I knew that my general broadband was usually stable but was mainly with the phone as I remember that even under ADSL when I had my SNR margin capped to 9dB that completely fixed the broadband drop outs except that the SNR did drop early mornings to 2-3dB before recovering back. This held my connection but solved the drop outs.

But the phone causing drop outs was another separate problem for me. After FTTC my general broadband drops were completely resolved as now my connection is maintained even with a 3dB SNR. But phone calls, pickups or connecting them to filter/faceplate always triggered a disconnection similarly to the behaviour experienced in Dial-Up.

A Sky engineer came and he couldn't find a fault and an Openreach engineer also couldn't find a fault. Anyway, by then we already ditched the landline and used only mobile.

Only after the Digital Voice migration with BT it resolved the problem naturally. Yes, it is masking the fault. But this will be the case for loads of customers after 2027. Many people will be secretly having the problem but they won't realise it because they simply won't know they have it as DV will not trigger these issues! That is my suggestion to the OP in the scenario that Openreach fail to fix his problem..
Standard User FibreBubble
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 28-Jan-25 18:25:37
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Ok thanks for the information. I've had the experience of fixing the odd fault myself over the years too. In excess of 20 thousand of them. smile

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Standard User DFScale
(committed) Tue 28-Jan-25 18:52:56
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I've had the experience of fixing the odd fault myself over the years too. In excess of 20 thousand of them. smile

And what were the abiding lessons in just a minute [or a single post] without deviation, hesitation or repetition?
Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Tue 28-Jan-25 21:12:00
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Ok thanks for the information. I've had the experience of fixing the odd fault myself over the years too. In excess of 20 thousand of them. smile
And after those 20,000+ fixes there's nothing better than being told how it should be done by an armchair linesman 😎
Standard User FibreBubble
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 28-Jan-25 22:15:37
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Please don't get me wrong. Blazing's story is interesting and I wouldn't want to discourage posters from contributing. Yet the story is not relevant in the case of the OP's problems, which are a well recognised fault condition that shouldn't be causing any engineer too much trouble locating.

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Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Tue 28-Jan-25 22:22:13
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Blazing's story is interesting
Message understood, for me its not the first, second or third time I've read that same story from him and I won't be surprised if I'm reading it again in the coming weeks.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 28-Jan-25 22:35:02
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In reply to a post by Taras:
sames.........

They also can borrow my 10m* drop wire if they want !!!!! 😂🙈

No DW to be used UG … not grease filled see.


That is what I had replaced a few years back 2015 I think as identified by yourself. The new 5c master sockets seem designed to a tight spec as the fit together snuggly and dont easily come off when knocked.

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