Certainly seems like a fault on one leg of the UG cable under the pavement has been causing your issues - I think you said that was just single pair...

Argos phone causing problems?

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Certainly seems like a fault on one leg of the UG cable under the pavement has been causing your issues - I think you said that was just single pair...

Argos phone causing problems?

Yes seems fixed. Argos phone a bit crackly so took it out of the circuit to get a clear. Single pair yes wouldn't replace said was fine. The ring trip may have been caused by a US Robotics Fax Modem which looks like it has died so unplugged as well.

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Example of one type of jointing post. https://www.ringbell.co.uk/nostalgia/img/ABG02.jpg

Copper Cables RIP

9083 RIP more like

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In reply to a post by 4M2:

Certainly seems like a fault on one leg of the UG cable under the pavement has been causing your issues - I think you said that was just single pair...

Argos phone causing problems?

Yes seems fixed. Argos phone a bit crackly so took it out of the circuit to get a clear. Single pair yes wouldn't replace said was fine. The ring trip may have been caused by a US Robotics Fax Modem which looks like it has died so unplugged as well.

So from the NTE5 test socket all tests are now fine?

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In reply to a post by 4M2:

Certainly seems like a fault on one leg of the UG cable under the pavement has been causing your issues - I think you said that was just single pair...

Argos phone causing problems?

Yes seems fixed. Argos phone a bit crackly so took it out of the circuit to get a clear. Single pair yes wouldn't replace said was fine. The ring trip may have been caused by a US Robotics Fax Modem which looks like it has died so unplugged as well.

So from the NTE5 test socket all tests are now fine?

Yes he ran 4 consecutive tests as one of the contractors was getting random results but all 4 came back pass.

Old fashioned 9083 meter could detect old fashioned customer equipment with a loop on it pretty snappy, on visit one, and without any doubt, quibble or app.

Edited by FibreBubble (Tue 04-Feb-25 21:45:19)

When the one I got issued finally broke, I bought another from the Bay of Fleas, and when that packed up, replaced it again. That final one still lives in my shed.

There was nowt better for identifying loops, and reccy loops. I could discern different types of modem via it … all kind of useful stuff.

I still have the original 301c …. they can prise that from my still warm dead hands if they are desperate.

From my testing (without a 301c or other meter) by disconnecting my Panasonic Quad Dect the ring trip after 4 rings doesn't happen. So assuming the Panasonic is the culprit. Tested several times in and out of circuit.

It's fairly random but the Panasonic set is fairly old with tiny screen so hopefully I have found it.

Just looked at the receipt for the Panasonic with original batteries which still hold charge, 2009. Not a bad innings.

Edited by Banger (Wed 05-Feb-25 23:40:01)

Hmmm that's not it but I think I may have stumbled on the rectified loop with the help of MSFT Copilot. Pulled off the extensions one by one until I got a 4 ring trip. One extension is testing with a multimeter 6Mohm in one direction and open circuit in the other direction. What do you guys think.

I have left the extension disconnected as there was only an old corded BT answerphone on it and replaced with a DECT phone. Have ordered another DECT phone can two DECT phones co-exist say one base station upstairs and one base downstairs?

Edited by Banger (Thu 06-Feb-25 04:03:06)

If it's stable at 6Mohm, it's not low enough to ring trip. But test conditions do change so worth ruling out by leaving disconnected for a while.

Edited by FibreBubble (Thu 06-Feb-25 09:31:33)