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Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Thu 06-Feb-25 10:54:38
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Why don't you keep it simple for a week or two by disconnecting all extension wiring and see if the line becomes stable, trying to add back in the internal extension wiring will only drag this out further as first you need to ensure the outside issues are actually fixed.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 12:38:54
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: FibreBubble] [link to this post]
 
Correction, tried with another meter on a lower range (20K) and it is reading 6kohm in one direction. Is that low enough to cause rectified loop and ring trip?

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Standard User DFScale
(committed) Thu 06-Feb-25 12:50:01
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
6kOhm of itself is probably not enough for a ring trip. BUT given that it is a rectified loop issue, 6kOhm at test meter voltages is likely to be a much lower resistance at higher voltages and possibly quite adequate to cause ring trip.


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 12:53:32
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: DFScale] [link to this post]
 
To be more specific it was starting at 6k and dropping to about 3 or 4 in one direction. Open circuit in the other. I have abandoned the extension as there is only one phone on it replaced now by a dect phone.

Tim
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Standard User FibreBubble
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 06-Feb-25 13:51:20
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Looks like you have found it then. Once you get the ringing down it then it will prolly go lower and trip

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 13:54:33
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: FibreBubble] [link to this post]
 
Haha no its purely internal but the cable is under a high traffic doorway so could be there. No brickies involved. smile

Tim
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 14:56:30
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Banger:
Haha no its purely internal but the cable is under a high traffic doorway so could be there. No brickies involved. smile

Never, never, never, run telephone cabling under a door threshold, or tuck it down with the grippa rods 🙄

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 15:17:06
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
In reply to a post by Banger:
Haha no its purely internal but the cable is under a high traffic doorway so could be there. No brickies involved. smile

Never, never, never, run telephone cabling under a door threshold, or tuck it down with the grippa rods 🙄


Well it was my late father who dun the deed many moons ago. Not much I can do now other than abandon it and use DECT.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Feb-25 17:36:47
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Banger] [link to this post]
 
Indeed. I’ve not anything other than a single NTE in my last four dwellings.

The sad thing is, how many engineers hadn’t been able to spot the two separate issues.

In one of my earlier replies I mentioned dissing of the line at the 66, allowing for tests to show the reccy loop inside, and an HR on the pair going back. This is Bob basic practise, but was not done successfully.

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Standard User PCJM40
(experienced) Thu 06-Feb-25 17:41:58
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Re: Line fault VDSL


[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Indeed. I’ve not anything other than a single NTE in my last four dwellings.

The sad thing is, how many engineers hadn’t been able to spot the two separate issues.

In one of my earlier replies I mentioned dissing of the line at the 66, allowing for tests to show the reccy loop inside, and an HR on the pair going back. This is Bob basic practise, but was not done successfully.
The question that is puzzling me the most is how come the two issues occur at exactly the same time?
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