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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 28-Sep-24 18:20:05
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Re: Help. NVMe drive again


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I wonder if you are thinking about the DOS low-level routines (“interrupts”) that are, indeed, loaded from disk? All PCs running DOS worked that way. The BIOS provided a very limited set of commands; most useful low-level routines were from IO.SYS.


Or CP/M 86 if you were so inclined in the early days.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 21-Oct-24 14:12:23
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Re: Help. NVMe drive again


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As I have said in another post, I got myself a gen 4 NVMe drive of 2TB for my old computer, the computer would not post. So I tried the Gen 3 4TB NVMe I have in my Mac dock in my computer and it would still not post.

So my view is that the machine can't take anything more than a 1TB NVMe drive or less.
The original drive is a 256GB.

The new NVMe drive works in my Mac dock, so there is nothing wrong with that.

I won't send it back, I will keep it for when I update my PC, but just wondered if anyone agrees with me that my old PC don't like any NVMe about 1TB.

I have done a search for the ASRock AMD AM4 Ryzen AB350 Gaming K4 and for the chipset, which is a B350 for NVMe capacity, but no luck. Just wondered if anyone on here knows why? Cheers

So I will have to keep using the SSD for the games and the 250GB drive for the OS and some software.


apparently the mobo in question has two m.2 slots - which slot did you put the 2gb m.2 - first one or second one ?
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Mon 21-Oct-24 20:30:32
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apparently the mobo in question has two m.2 slots - which slot did you put the 2gb m.2 - first one or second one ?


I have had the board for 7 years and i have already got a 256GB NVMe unit in it, so I know what slot is what, one is SATA, the other is NVMe.
Anyway, i was having a look to see what is compatible and I found this.

Due to a mismatch in pin definitions, some M.2 SSDs are incompatible. The table below
shows which M.2 SSDs are known to be incompatible. Unfortunately, most recent PCIe M.2
SSD will also be incompatible, but have not been tested to verify this.
Please refer to the Storage QVL for a list of SSDs that have been tested as compatible.
If you would like to use a newer PCIe M.2 SSD which is not in the Storage QVL, we
recommend using a PCIe to M.2 adapter card. Please check the motherboard specifications
and your system to determine which slot might be free to use

and in the list is my drive smile and also the drive in my Mac hub.
so that explains it.

I just have to decide where to go from here, spending £400 or so on a computer just to play a few games is not really something I relish at the moment.

Adrian

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 21-Oct-24 23:34:36
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Interesting, thats a bit of a cockup by asrock. If you do want more nvme storage, and you have a spare pcie slot and spare lanes, get an m2 adaptor, as everything is pcie, there will be no slow down, in theory you should be able to boot from the device too
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 22-Oct-24 08:48:01
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Interesting, thats a bit of a cockup by asrock. If you do want more nvme storage, and you have a spare pcie slot and spare lanes, get an m2 adaptor, as everything is pcie, there will be no slow down, in theory you should be able to boot from the device too


i did think about that, but not sure if it is worth it, if I am going to update the machine. Still not sure what to do.
I am waiting for an eye specialist appointment as the optician have seen some disease in my eyes, I am losing peripheral sight on the top. So he says. I think it has been happening for over a year or more, I thought I just needed new specs.
i don't want to spend £400 or more on something I may not be able to use in 2-3 years.

Adrian

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Standard User TinyMongomery
(legend) Tue 22-Oct-24 08:53:06
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As you can get a PCI M2 card for about a tenner I would have thought it was an obvious way to use your drive.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 22-Oct-24 09:41:24
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i'm sorry to hear that, i hope what ever eye issue it is, it can be reduced. As TinyMongomery an pcie adaptor is only £10 to 15. I'd personally just drop a 5600 or 5800 class cpu in that mobo - if your eyes are gonna hold up

Take care, Adrian ❤
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 22-Oct-24 10:18:27
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i'm sorry to hear that, i hope what ever eye issue it is, it can be reduced. As TinyMongomery an pcie adaptor is only £10 to 15. I'd personally just drop a 5600 or 5800 class cpu in that mobo - if your eyes are gonna hold up

Take care, Adrian ❤

Thanks.
I can see pretty well to be honest. In one way i look at it and think, maybe i should get update the machine after all, we don't know what is going to happen the next day. You could buy a new machine and have a stroke and lose eyesight or use of hands.
It could take years for me to lose my sight, if I ever do, depending on what the problem is. A lot of it is treatable these days, ok not reversible, but treatable, so it don't get any worse. I thought they would have been in touch by now, it is over a week.

Then another side of me, think, what is the point of spending more money on a new machine if I get to the stage I can't use it. I can still just about see the registration plate across the road, which have been the quality of my eye sight for the last 20 years or so.

I don't know, I just wish they would hurry up and see me.

As for the Motherboard, that is the main problem with the machine, it is falling apart, things are starting to fail, internal USB3 sockets for some reason are not working now, no matter what I do, I do have a USB3 card that I use, that have a external USB3 socket.
the machine will work for a while and then switch off, I thought it was overheating, but It is not.
I think maybe stuff it, go for it.
could be dead tomorrow.

Then I think £500 or so for a machine that is only used for a few games or maybe a back up for video rendering.
Sorry about the negativity smile

I have put a system together from Scan, a AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, AM, 32 GB of ram, Asrock board and a heat sink, come to around £450

Adrian

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 22-Oct-24 10:27:50
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I hope you get seen quickly because you will have negative thoughts. As you say most eye conditions are treatable so that remaining is maintained. As for the ryzen system - wait. The 9x series along with the 7x will get shuffled around abit with the 9xX3d series coming out in november
Standard User zyborg47
(legend) Tue 22-Oct-24 11:07:54
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[re: Taras] [link to this post]
 
It is the waiting that is the worst, strangely enough, when i had cancer, my thought was oh well, it is what it is. But with the eyes, i think differently.

Anyway, i have decided to get a PCIe card to put the drive on, ordered and should be here tomorrow. As been said it is only just over a tenner and as you said, wait for a while as the prices will come down.


Just had to make sure I have enough slots, I will have to move the sound card.

thank peeps.

Adrian

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