Iphone 3.0 software update

apparently Apple is holding a preview of the Iphone 3.0 software on the 17th of March

http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/03/12/forums-speci...

MMS is rumoured..... should be a big update jumping from 2.2 to 3.0, fingers crossed they will fill in the (little) gaps in the best phone out there....

If they get MMS, copy n paste, sending mail attachments and vcard functionality in there it'll be the most perfect business phone ever.

Not holding my breath though, with Apples past record it'll probably just be GPS and Google map enhancements and allowing more apps with bouncing boobies...

allowing more apps with bouncing boobies...

You say that like it's a bad thing...

I'd like to see wireless syncing, but that may be something to be included in an iTunes update...

Copy and paste, and the ability to switch off cover flow... I just want to use my iphone on its side without it going all cover flow on me dammit!

Oh, and I'd like to be able to forward SMS messages, and use customizable SMS alerts..

Edited by xela (Fri 13-Mar-09 19:12:51)

People will still moan about the battery life or other things.

The problem with the iPhone is that people who have never bought a smartphone have bought an iPhone. They're just not used to battery life vs capabilities tradeoff.

If they had owned any other smartphones they wouldn't be whining about cut n paste.

I'm moaning about cut and paste which my Treos do perfectly well. I have owned smartphones therefore your statement is a bit sweeping imho.

For iphone you would need iFingers with pointy ends to fully implement it though.

Palm and Microsoft had decades to implement all these features before they slapped a phone on the side of them.

Apple spent a heck of a lot of time making the iPhone OS SDK then had to make version 2 which was the public version.

Considering iPhone 1 was 2007 I think a lot has been done.

it's certainly the best phone I've ever owned. Completely useable and intuitive

MMS
Copy and paste
Landscape Own email with attachments
file storage and transfer via USB
turn by turn navigation a la tom tom please

In reply to a post by ian_c:

You say that like it's a bad thing...

Sorry, it's not really a bad thing, but I can get bouncing boobies anywhere

I've never had an issue with the battery life, it's actually not bad in comparison to other smartphones I've had.

In reply to a post by gilesjuk:

If they had owned any other smartphones they wouldn't be whining about cut n paste.

How so? It's been a useful feature on every phone I've used that's had it.

....... and soon we may have it, assuming all models of iPhone can run v3.0!

Beware strong language with a rampant Diggnation audience in the video.

http://news.worldofapple.com/archives/2009/03/15/kev...

Edited by deleted (Mon 16-Mar-09 11:51:07)

Cus other phones require resets, mail accounts go missing etc...

The smartphone edition of Windows Mobile doesnt have cut and paste and it never caused as much fuss.

so, today's the day. But what time..?

10:00am PST according to Engadget

5pm i make that

Never had any of those problems personally.

I suppose it's all relative to what features you find useful on a phone. Having been used to cut and paste on every phone I've had since about 2005/6 (probably earlier actually), it was a bit of a suprise not to see it on the iPhone.

Especially as you can't forward SMS messages or send business contacts, it's a staggering omission if you want to target business users (which they tried, and failed in my experience) for those two reasons alone.

Edited by SamsonUK (Tue 17-Mar-09 14:49:27)

Kitchen sink included

Chuffing brilliant.

Finally these CnP, AD2P, MMS whingers will shut up.

True in some ways, but you have to also look back in time, it's not quite 2 years since iPhone 1.0 and Apple have never been a phone maker.

Shrinking OSX into a phone and building up all the SDKs is a big task. Especially when Linux tends to have a much longer history on embedded devices.

People only look at the front of the device, adding all the SDKs for the features takes time to do well.

2.2.1 was January, we're nearly on 3.0 in March. Name me another platform with developments at that pace? name me another phone platform where you get the updates without buying a new phone?

I doubt it. The whingers will whinge about anything to do with the iPhone. Even if it could grant three wishes each day they'd still complain.

It's because so many of them are Windows Vista users.

I don't doubt it was a huge task getting the OS on to the iPhone, that's fairly irrelevant though, they must have sat down and worked out a feature set first and for me personally, and obviously an awful lot of other people, they worked on the wrong set. The more rabid Mac user is easily blinded by bling, and that's what they seemed to aim for, missing out on a whole raft of more useful features than things like GPS and Google maps.

I know that MMS isn't really used in the US, so I guess that comes into it to an extent. Not to mention their Draconian controls placed on developing apps and the ridiculous provider locks (not that they are alone, should be made illegal!).

Apple have kind of pulled a Microsoft, released a partly developed piece of kit (and very buggy in places, Safari pre-2.2 was very buggy) and added to it over time. Guess that's what happens when profits and turn over, quite rightly, come first.

Worked though, I have one and it's a great phone, having used a lot of smartphones over the years I guess I'm just able to look at it a bit more subjectively and see what was missing in comparison to other smartphones. Blackberry have done the same recently, the Storm is an awful bit of kit, released to early, no wireless, slow, call drop outs, locked to Vodafone etc etc, same sort of stuff that happened to the iPhone.

Come 3.0 it'll be the best phone I've ever owned (actually, it probably already is, still want more though ), there's some great features in there. Once the jailbreak is released and I can get a web server on there that is

Trust me, getting an OS designed for desktops onto a phone is a huge undertaking. ARM processors are quite different to Intel. You have loads of drivers to write etc..

It took OpenMoko a long time to get a working phone OS. That's with some embedded Linux experts on the case.

The Mach kernel didn't run well on servers originally, so having it run well on a phone is an achievement.

The more rabid Mac user is easily blinded by bling,

Oh get lost. The average mac user is every bit as demanding as anyone else.

Apple focussed on the 90% of features used by 90% of users - but underestimated what a whiny, moany selfish crowd the other 10% is.

e useful features than things like GPS and Google maps.

A mate of mine - who hasn't user a Mac since he worked at an architect in the mid-80s and is the least geeky person I know (he wants to push a button and have it work) - got an iPhone recently and loves it for the maps - 'cos he is out on the road a lot and the locate me button is a Godsend.

> the locate me button is a Godsend.

Mmm, it's awesome, isn't it?

And the ability to turn up pretty much anywhere, press 'find me', and then 'find pub' is phenomenal.

Thinking about it, there's probably a good pub guide app somewhere... edit: or maybe not. Does anyone know of a good food/pub guide app?

Edited by xela (Tue 17-Mar-09 22:17:00)

I don't see the bling factor anyway. Sure, it has animations and the handset is well designed. But the actual interface is very simple. Almost like the Palm OS with a nice facelift.

Nobody really wants a full featured PDA like their PSION used to be. People don't want to do scripting and programming on the move.

For those that want to do that Apple isn't the place to be, get some Linux thing or Nokia tablet.

A bit confused about the bluetooth changes. Will a user be able to send and receive files from a computer?

I believe it's all been perfectly planned by Apple. They knew that by releasing the original iPhone with so many 'standard' features missing that a core group people would still buy it regardless and set the ball rolling. Then with the iPhone 3G they added a bit more, but crucially made the phone a lot cheaper to buy. A lot of people bought that one, despite many 'standard' features still missing. I was one of them, and I can honestly say that I don't want to switch to another phone manufacturer now. The only reason I'll get another phone is if Apple release a brand new one.

Fact remains that even with many 'standard' features missing people still think it's one of the better phones out there. So now with the 3.0 software update it's going to be the best phone out there bar none, and all they had to do was update the software! Very very clever indeed.

Apple didn't drop the ball on this. They knew exactly what they were doing.

The average Mac user != the more rabid Mac user.

You could take out the 'Mac' part and insert pretty much any company, those that are happy with anything they are given and think that anyone that critisises in any way is a moron.

What's wrong with wanting improvements?

In reply to a post by fetler:

I believe it's all been perfectly planned by Apple.

I think you might be over estimating them slightly

They knew that by releasing the original iPhone with so many 'standard' features missing that a core group people would still buy it regardless and set the ball rolling.

Yup, the bling and early adopter crowd. Wouldn't touch a first gen iPhone with a barge pole myself!

I was one of them, and I can honestly say that I don't want to switch to another phone manufacturer now. The only reason I'll get another phone is if Apple release a brand new one.

The 3G was a good move, it's definately what put a lot of people off the first release. As for only ever getting another Apple phone, I don't make choices based on the company, if Blackberry, SE or another manufacturer release a phone better than the iPhone, I'll get it.

Fact remains that even with many 'standard' features missing people still think it's one of the better phones out there.

And I'm one of them. Nothing wrong with wanting the more common features as well though, doesn't make me or any of the hordes of other people asking for them a moron for voicing that either! Now the way it's asked for, that's another issue altogether.

Don't know to be honest. I do know that it is possible though, it's been available on a jailbroken phone for a while, called iBluetooth, don't know how well it works though.

In reply to a post by xela:

Does anyone know of a good food/pub guide app?

You need AroundMe - and urbanspoon if you're in a big city