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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 17-May-23 12:46:39
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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May I ask how to set up Broadband Quality Monitor on NR5103E as it all full RED on it?
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 17-May-23 13:15:52
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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Which SIM, if SMARTY you can’t as its a CGNAT network.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM
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(founder) Wed 17-May-23 14:51:22
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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Which SIM, if SMARTY you can’t as its a CGNAT network.


Very few 3G would not be CGNAT. You'd need to be on something exceptional. It is possible but rare.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 17-May-23 14:57:44
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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Agreed. Only Three contract was public IP. However EE does IPv6 if hardware compatible fully routed. Only managed to see EE IPv6 on an iPhone or iPad so far.

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Standard User steve30
(newbie) Thu 18-May-23 09:32:04
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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And what antenna(s) do you have ?


Just the built in ones on the Mikrotik router.

Jonny4911: Sounds like you have a nice setup there with the 5G. For the price, its probably not worth paying for both Virgin AND 5G.

adslmax: You won't be able to if its CGNAT. Personally I use an Andrews & Arnold L2TP tunnel which gives me a public IPv4 address and a /48 of IPv6, and a quality monitor thrown in for free. I can use that on any connection and get the same IP addresses. Works nicely, but you do have to pay for it. They do do a cheaper option now for £3/month which is bandwidth limited, so useful for VoIP, IoT stuff, etc. It may also be doable with a VPN of some kind.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Thu 18-May-23 10:19:26
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They do do a cheaper option now for £3/month

Ooh, nice! Looks like only £2.40 per month, limited to 3Mbps and 1TB/month. But perfect for SSH'ing into your home machines.
Standard User Jonny4911
(newbie) Thu 18-May-23 11:32:25
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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May I ask how to set up Broadband Quality Monitor on NR5103E as it all full RED on it?


The BQM only works on if you're on 3 (not a MVNO like SMARTY) using the 3internet APN, as you won't be subject to CGNAT. Otherwise you'll have to explore another solution like other's have mentioned.
I'm not sure if the NR5103E will respond to ping requests directly if you're using it as your router, you may have to hunt through the settings to get it to do so. As I've setup IP passthrough on the NR5103E it's my UniFi UDM-Pro that's responding to the BQM.

Ubiquiti UniFi UDM-Pro load balancing between:
Virgin Media M500 - Virgin Hub 4 (Modem Only Mode) - Live BQM
Three 5G Broadband - Zyxel NR5103E (IP Passthrough Mode) - Live BQM
Standard User andynormancx
(committed) Sat 20-May-23 14:45:46
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Re: My 3G/4G testing...


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Which router do you have, you linked to the modem, not the router.
Standard User steve30
(newbie) Thu 25-May-23 22:07:34
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Re: My 3G/4G testing... - 1pMobile (EE)


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Now that my GiffGaff 'goodybag' has run out I decided to get a 1pMobile SIM. 1pMobile are an MVNO on the EE network. This month I have paid £12.50 for 25GB.

Here is the quality graph for the EE SIM on both 3G and 4G. The 3G performance was better than O2, with far less latency and almost double the data rate. I gather EE are discontinuing 3G next month so I wouldn't be surprised if hardly anyone was using it. The 4G performance, compared to the O2 and Three graphs in the first post, is excellent. Not much latency, not too many latency 'spikes', virtually no packet loss, and reasonable speeds. I am able to attain 15-25Mbps down and 5-10Mbps up which is more than fast enough for my need.

http://stevecoates.net/stuff/networking/ee-3g4g-cqm.png

Band 3 gave the best performance so I've locked the router to that.

Edited by steve30 (Thu 25-May-23 22:09:39)

Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 26-May-23 10:12:40
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Re: My 3G/4G testing... - 1pMobile (EE)


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The 3G performance was better than O2, with far less latency and almost double the data rate. I gather EE are discontinuing 3G next month so I wouldn't be surprised if hardly anyone was using it.
Only in Warrington, if you live there. Rest of country likely won't lose 3G until 2024, however its not worth using as the 3G has been reduced to the minimum.

The 4G performance, compared to the O2 and Three graphs in the first post, is excellent. Not much latency, not too many latency 'spikes', virtually no packet loss, and reasonable speeds. I am able to attain 15-25Mbps down and 5-10Mbps up which is more than fast enough for my need.

Pretty common, you're likely found that EE deploys 20 MHz on 1800 (Band 3) and in many areas has deployed 20+20 or 20+15 across two carriers. Then EE is also often deploying 2100 (Band 1) and 2600 (Band 7) for capacity.

Of course if you have a Cat 4 modem then you can only use one carrier at a time, on any of the bands. So it is most likely you will be comparing O2's 10 MHz on Band 20, and Three's 15 MHz on Band 3 with EE's 20 MHz on Band 3.

Band 3 gave the best performance so I've locked the router to that.

Locking confuses me, as this means the mast can't ask your UE to move to a different band if the statistics make it worthwhile, e.g. from Band 3 to Band 1 to Band 7 etc.

23 years of broadband connectivity since 1999 trial - Live BQM

Edited by jchamier (Fri 26-May-23 10:15:05)

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