So what you actually require is a shift of NTE then.

LOL, that's interesting. BT's system used to be circa £300! That's some price drop!

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

So what you actually require is a shift of NTE then.

Yes, if that would give a new drop-wire from the same pole to the building with the wire coming in through to the first floor office.

To a non-Open Reach person like myself, "shift of NTE" could mean that the existing NTE is removed and replaced with either an internal or external junction box and a new wire run around the building on the surface.

Besides not looking as neat, I would also be concerned re internet speed. The checker shows an estimated line length of 472 metres, which I think is to the cabinet, to the exchange would be 619 metres.

In fact there may not be an existing NTE5 according to the checker it shows Bridge Tap U, VRI N and NTEFaceplate N last test date 19-05-2017. I will have a look tomorrow - from memory there is a pile of junk there. It may be the non-split style of master socket.

Cheers!

An NTE shift costs over £100. A new line install around £54 (that's what we charge anyway). So a new line might be worth a look, as mentioned.

My approach would be:
* Order a new line with broadband from TTB or Zen; this will place the master socket where you want it at minimal cost. Use BT if you must; it might just be to your advantage with their daily offers.
* Use a Draytek 2860Vac Router
* Update the router to the latest firmware
* Configure the Hotspot Web Portal to your desires
* Replace the aerials on the DrayTek router
* Loop the exchange line through the router
* When the new line is operational, port the existing exchange line to a VoIP hosting provider. Draytel is worthy of consideration perhaps in conjunction with their PAYG service. You might be in contract with BT, check this out.
* Acquire a suitable Gigabit Switch with PoE
* Run separate Cat5 cables to the ground floor rooms
* Use adaptors that enable a POTS service and data ove a siigle cat5 cable with an AP at the far end. The choice of a hardwired or wireless phone is yours.

The gift of a free broadband service from your resident business user would be lost but at least you will have VAT invoices correctly addressed. The owner of that service may not agree to using his broadband service as a hotspot anyway.

You get to keep your existing exchange line number rental free with low call costs.

Be aware that 999 calls are normally unavailable on a VoIP service. The setup described gives access to the exchange line from any phone connected to the router using an appropriately configured dial plan in the Dratek router.

Just ideas for your consideration.

A couple of points to clarify.

It is not our intention to request our tenant to allow us to use his wireless internet for our "Guest" users in rooms that we hire out on a hourly basis.

Currently, the telephone is in my name. (I Chair the Management Committee) not ideal - I "inherited" it following the death of the previous Chairman. We were getting BT Bills in his name, I phoned BT asking if it could be transferred to me and to my amazement they did.

The village hall is not VAT registered - our turnover is too low and would increase our prices to users, plus give us more paperwork.

I was looking at the BT Whole Home product because, hopefully as intended for non-professional installation, it should be easy to set up. Its only downside I've noticed so far is that it cannot use POE, but I see that I can cheaply get POE splitters intended for CCTV, so I could feed the 12 volts from each 12v psu from the office. What I am unsure of is how many concurrent Wi-Fi users that BT system will allow.

ZyXEL Ceieling mount POE dual band Wireless APs have caught my eye (they are in the lates CPC everyday deals booklet which convieniently dropped though my door on Friday.

I use DrayTel for my work as a County Councillor, certainly cheap and apparently will accept 999 calls from UK customers if they register. Obviously dependant on power and internet availability.

Cheers!

Something like a few Ubiquiti Access Point with a cloud key or something running the Ubiquiti UniFi software to manage the network maybe an idea.
All support POE and can create separate WiFi networks and a guest portal. Plus to make more money for the Village Hall it can be integrated with PayPal for example and can get guests pay a small fee to use it?

You order it, and show the engineer who attends exactly where you wish the NTE to be, and also discuss/suggest a preferred route for the cable.

With such short distances involved, a couple of extra metres here and there will make no difference.

You may end up with a new joint on the eaves, but they are waterproof these days, and ht crimes inside are the same as used everywhere else in the network to joint pairs.

I'm a fan of the Ubiquiti access points too.

I've had over 30 on the BT Whole Home before without it causing any noticeable issues. The spec sheets are usually a bit conservative, but I should imagine it will do a fair number.

Remember to get the DHCP lease time to be as low as possible, else all 254 IPs might get used up.

I am worried slightly at your approach, even using the "Guest" feature, the line is still registered in your name and hence anything illegal done on there (child porn etc) would comeback to you. With a system such as O2 WiFi, The Cloud WiFi, BT WiFi etc, this liability does not exist. Unless you are meaning sharing the BTWiFi SSID which to my knowledge cannot be done on BT Whole Home WiFi, it will just share the standard connection. Also users would not get free access then.

Some others will know the legals better than me.