In reply to a post by dect:

Maybe using external CW1308 cable (not CCA or CCS) rather than external Cat 6 would have been a better way.

Don't installers use CAT5e for similar (although internal) "data extensions" over relatively short lengths successfully? Or would you see potentially significant dsl issues with external grade CAT6 - the way the twisted pairs are formed or something else?

Is that the stuff BT use as drop cable as it looks familiar?

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In reply to a post by dect:

Maybe using external CW1308 cable (not CCA or CCS) rather than external Cat 6 would have been a better way.

Don't installers use CAT5e for similar (although internal) "data extensions" over relatively short lengths successfully? Or would you see potentially significant dsl issues with external grade CAT6 - the way the twisted pairs are formed or something else?

External CW1308 is what I would have expected the Openreach guy to have used on the network side of the demarcation point (if they had done the work).

In reply to a post by dect:

External CW1308 is what I would have expected the Openreach guy to have used on the network side of the demarcation point (if they had done the work).

Sure, that's what I have from an external junction box to the back of a relocated NTE5 - but I would like to know why you think CAT6 might be inferior.

In reply to a post by 4M2:

but I would like to know why you think CAT6 might be inferior.

Didn't say inferior, I said external CW1308 is what the Openreach guys would have probably used on the network side of the demarcation point.

In reply to a post by TrevorSP:

Is that the stuff BT use as drop cable as it looks familiar?

OP possibly has a few meters of this network stuff https://www.scan.co.uk/products/305m-lms-data-cat6-u...

In reply to a post by dect:

Didn't say inferior, I said external CW1308 is what the Openreach guys would have probably used on the network side of the demarcation point.

Sorry but I must have misunderstood when you previously wrote: "Maybe using external CW1308 cable (not CCA or CCS) rather than external Cat 6 would have been a better way."

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In reply to a post by dect:

Didn't say inferior, I said external CW1308 is what the Openreach guys would have probably used on the network side of the demarcation point.

Sorry but I must have misunderstood when you previously wrote: "Maybe using external CW1308 cable (not CCA or CCS) rather than external Cat 6 would have been a better way."

Sorry, I meant better by keeping more aligned with Openreach standards, so not to upset the next Openreach engineer that comes round.

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In reply to a post by 4M2:

In reply to a post by dect:

Didn't say inferior, I said external CW1308 is what the Openreach guys would have probably used on the network side of the demarcation point.

Sorry but I must have misunderstood when you previously wrote: "Maybe using external CW1308 cable (not CCA or CCS) rather than external Cat 6 would have been a better way."

Sorry, I meant better by keeping more aligned with Openreach standards, so not to upset the next Openreach engineer that comes round.

The job has now been done and to a much higher standard than the original wiring which is now redundant. There were no issues whatsoever; jelly clamps at one end and at the far end, terminating in a 5C MK4 master socket. The blue and white twisted pair was used. The biggest part of the job was screwing the pattress to the wall!

I would humbly suggest that the solid cores of exterior grade CAT6 were at least equivalent, if not to a higher specification, of CW1308.

Modern built houses are now flooded with CAT6 cabling which can be used either for DATA or Voice and installed by qualified electrical contractors. I have no doubt that the 'tail' to the DP point would also be of CAT6 ready for Openreach to come along to make the final connection.

I'm glad it's all sorted now.

Call me old-fashioned, but I really dislike the NTE5C master socket. It just feels cheap and nasty, which is probably because it's cheap and nasty. The SSFP (DSL filter) is knocked off the front too easily because the clips aren't very strong. I usually resort to white gaffer tape to hold the filter on.

I also don't like the lack of a place to attach the incoming cable to the back of the socket with a cable tie.

Or I wouldn't like it if I'd ever fitted one, which of course I haven't, obviously 🤥