In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by DFScale:

You would probably be able to achieve this with Mikrotik kit at a reasonable price, but the learning curve would be huge.

For less learning I would look at Draytek. Not cheap, and you'll still need an understanding of TCP/IP networking unless in failover / fallback configuation for disaster recovery.
https://www.draytek.co.uk/products/business/vigor-29...

theres wan fall back on the fritzbox on lan 1 or the usb port. So unless it doesn't work in practice, why spend money on a draytek

In reply to a post by Taras:

theres wan fall back on the fritzbox on lan 1 or the usb port. So unless it doesn't work in practice, why spend money on a draytek

my ASUS can do the same; but I suspect the Fritz!Box is the same as my ASUS, and the Draytek is a halfway house to the other product mentioned. Maybe you can set per device routing, or per internal subnet etc.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

You could keep the NTE [socket] where it is and run to an upstairs router position. That would be your cable and not require any involvement by Openreach.

Your suggestion would cause a bridge tap fault

Well, true. But only if not done properly, as you know full well.

In reply to a post by Taras:

the 7530 doesn't support dual wan but does support wan fall over and will use lan 1 as a wan backup

https://fritz.com/en/apps/knowledge-base/FRITZ-Box-7...

get a 4g+ (cat 6+)/5g modem (or router modem and idealy with a bridge mode) and bung a cat5e/cat (6 or 6a) cable to lan port one.

In reply to a post by Taras:

theres wan fall back on the fritzbox on lan 1 or the usb port. So unless it doesn't work in practice, why spend money on a draytek

The challenge of OP's requirement is that they require a fallover between WAN connections on 2 different routers. I doubt that Draytek or Fritz can do this, even if they can do it for both WAN connections on the one router.

In reply to a post by DFScale:

The challenge of OP's requirement is that they require a fallover between WAN connections on 2 different routers. I doubt that Draytek or Fritz can do this, even if they can do it for both WAN connections on the one router.

Yes, but it doesn't have to be an automatic process. The OP has stated that it will be OK to do a bit of tinkering to switch things over so maybe a lot of the discussion and solutions laid out here are actually an over-provision for what the OP has stated as the requirement..

Well, true. But only if not done properly, as you know full well.

Not so , any extension wiring connected, without running beyond a filter will cause a bridge tap, or an NTE across the pair , even with nothing connected to it, and the router at the end of the extension wiring, will cause a bridge tap …. also star wiring tees in before the NTE.

In reply to a post by DFScale:

The challenge of OP's requirement is that they require a fallover between WAN connections on 2 different routers. I doubt that Draytek or Fritz can do this, even if they can do it for both WAN connections on the one router.

he's using a second router as an wireless ap

We are currently using a Fritzbox 7530 as the main router and another Fritzbox device (I forget the model) as a wifi repeater higher up and further back in the house to cover the bits the main router does not cover.

so he just needs use wan fall back on the 7530.

Edited by Taras (Sun 25-Jan-26 09:01:26)

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

In reply to a post by DFScale:

The challenge of OP's requirement is that they require a fallover between WAN connections on 2 different routers. I doubt that Draytek or Fritz can do this, even if they can do it for both WAN connections on the one router.

Yes, but it doesn't have to be an automatic process. The OP has stated that it will be OK to do a bit of tinkering to switch things over so maybe a lot of the discussion and solutions laid out here are actually an over-provision for what the OP has stated as the requirement..

In context, I was replying to a post which was mentioning the fall back capabilities on various routers. I am fully aware of OP not requiring an automatic facility.

In reply to a post by Taras:

In reply to a post by DFScale:

The challenge of OP's requirement is that they require a fallover between WAN connections on 2 different routers. I doubt that Draytek or Fritz can do this, even if they can do it for both WAN connections on the one router.

he's using a second router as an wireless ap

We are currently using a Fritzbox 7530 as the main router and another Fritzbox device (I forget the model) as a wifi repeater higher up and further back in the house to cover the bits the main router does not cover.

so he just needs use wan fall back on the 7530.

And if he has WAN fallback on that router, he needs 2 WANs connected to that router, which requires the ethernet he does not want for the 5G WAN.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Well, true. But only if not done properly, as you know full well.

Not so , any extension wiring connected, without running beyond a filter will cause a bridge tap, or an NTE across the pair , even with nothing connected to it, and the router at the end of the extension wiring, will cause a bridge tap …. also star wiring tees in before the NTE.

You must be having an off day. This can be done properly, as you have just stated.