" Closely monitored by this board? "

No by the fact that it was in the open and kept alive. One more report after the promises made here and PN would have blown themselves out of the water, they would have been back to their old tricks of telling porkies (not allowed to say what that really is anymore).

"We have to disagree about how TBB acted, I don't think it was irrational, I thought it had been coming for a while and I have to say there are others on here that probably need the same treatment, not just on the -ve side but on the +ve side. "

Now mass bannings would have been far more of a rational act. The irrationality was in a ban on one, that's victimisation when, as you say "there are others on here that probably need the same treatment."

Would have been better to have shut the PN threads for 3 months, if there objective was to achieve change. No this was vinictive and irrational and simply aimed at one person, IMO.

" at the end of the day what can actually be done about it? "

Never did understand this attitude. Once something is done, give up. Many things have first of all been changed and secondly shown in their true light by not sinply rolling over.

"What on earth does a casual Plusnet Customer seeking help from the forum think of all of this never ending waffle from the usual suspects?"

I would have thought the casual PN customer would first of all have found the boards PN plug, like their own and PUG.

If they have been short changed there and come here I would have thought they would have been glad to have found some people prepared to challenge PN and at one time a board willing to allow that and not gag it.

"Sometimes I get the impression its not just individuals, its groups that are acting in that way, perhaps thats a conspiracy too far! I can't supply any evidence its just an impression so I may just be making a mountain out of a mole hill. "

I have been posting in the same threads as PR100 for a couple of years now, and I know that he works alone, their is no link in the way you suggest. At times we have posted separately but on similar lines, but from our own standpoint and with no collaboration. I know one or two others, because of the time we have all been customers and ex-customers and the same is true. So that is a conspiracy too far for me.

" If they have been short changed there and come here I would have thought they would have been glad to have found some people prepared to challenge PN and at one time a board willing to allow that and not gag it. "

Of course the reality is, they would have come here, posted their question, then watched it get sidetracked in to just another point scoring exercise from the same old regulars.

The same regulars who should also be taking an enforced rest along with Simon in my opinion.

"The same regulars who should also be taking an enforced rest along with Simon in my opinion."

Is that a personal voluntary request?

" Is that a personal voluntary request? "

That is a prime example of the type of post I was referring to.

"just another point scoring exercise from the same old regulars.

The same regulars who should also be taking an enforced rest along with Simon in my opinion."

Sorry excluding the Lord High Executioner.

You really cannot see the incredible bias in your statements, which absolutely assume you are right and not part of the issue.

No go look in a mirror to find another of those regulars.

looking over the last few posts from yourself and silvernet just highlights whats wrong with this forum. too many people scoring points against each other and not actually helping plusnet customers.which i think is what this forum should be about.

I agree with that Jocky, I am not a " regular " on here, I have no wish to disrupt this thread, I should not have responded to RogN, I should have ignored him.

This is my last post on this thread.

Over and out.

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> I think it stinks of being in PN's pocket, of victimisation and of bias.

We've been accused of being in PN's pockets for a long time and during such occasions that this was so laughable I kept quoting it to them myself.

We all knew this was going to be controversial.. and I don't know whether this will help the forum.. Maybe we are wrong.. but all I can say is we honestly felt we have to do something to change how this is heading.

> Making him a martyr will not silence him, but only brings TBB into disrepute.

Firstly we've not excluded him from the forum permanently. Secondly, we don't expect him to be silent.. The Internet is wonderful because no one person or group controls it.. and I have absolutely no doubt he will spend time elsewhere as a result of not discussing PN here.


> So if this post gets me a ban too, goodbye just in case.

We're not banning a particular opinion here. Whether you agree with us or not is not a criteria for you being banned.


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