In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Another thing. That I just sort of got in a mess with.

When you say Outlook, are you referring to the posh Outlook; Outlook Express; or Outlook.com. Outlook.com is the most idiotic Microsoft naming ever - it is a rename of Hotmail . So when you meet Apps referring to Outlook, make sure which it is. An email client, or webmail/Hotmail. The latter of course doesn't have anything to do with what we are discussing.

Ah! as per my OP I am referring to MS Outlook as installed on a PC

Most POP3 email clients do have an option to 'Leave on Server', but it is not the default and you need to change this setting as soon a new account is created in the email client, if that is what you want.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by Routefinder:

And as such would creating the iPad email access convert the Outlook POP3 accessed same account into an IMAP type or leave alone but have other unforeseen consequences???

POP3 and IMAP are merely alternate transfer protocols for downloading emails from the the same email server. Using them does not affect the email server at all. Think of it as choosing to take a bus or underground from Victoria Station to Paddington Station. Whichever you chose, both stations remain standing as they have for over 100 years .

Not all email servers provide IMAP access, so your various mailboxes may or may not be accessed by both POP3 or IMAP depending on what protocols the email servers offer.

I would prefer using the iPad's email client than using Webmail. It is probably cleanest to consider the PC's access as the master holding the emails you want to keep for some time and use the iPad just to read the latest emails, discarding those that are of no further interest and holding off deleting the important ones until the PC has had a chance to read them. (or vica versa but the PC has more storage?).

Hi

Thanks for the reply & insight

PN do allow for either (both?) protocols including with the iPad please see here http://www.plus.net/support/email/setup/ios-setup.shtml so in regard to your second paragraph I need PN input as to what is possible and 'good'/best setup???

I take your point in the third paragraph and that would require a disciplined approach as to on what device one is using and the handling of said emails ~ e.g. if replying and c'c'ing oneself the reply would ensure the threading of the email such that the original if deleted even accidently would not matter? But have a method pre-supposes that the iPad's email client handles the emails elegantly in that it does not download & remove from the server in any form possibly even if deleted on the iPad???

In reply to a post by Routefinder:

I need PN input as to what is possible and 'good'/best setup???

Yes, PN offer POP3 or IMAP for any email client but as for their advice they mistakenly believe POP3 always deletes from server:

POP3

As messages are downloaded to your computer, they are removed from our mail system. After downloading, messages are stored on your computer until you delete them.

It's really horses for courses.

it does not download & remove from the server in any form possibly even if deleted on the iPad???

IMAP will always delete from server when deleted on device; with POP3 you can choose.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Most POP3 email clients do have an option to 'Leave on Server', but it is not the default and you need to change this setting as soon a new account is created in the email client, if that is what you want.

Further Googling threw this page up http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3228 if you click on the seond one down re iPad etc it mentions advanced settings re leave "never delete from server" but the screengrabs show a 'deleted' messages setting delete after one week.....................could that be local settings only with as per the settings in the field below the server copy is left intact??? May be tired but to me it seems a tad unclear???

Presume that page relates only to POP3. You are tired! 'Server' does mean 'Server' as do all the other fields.

I think XRaySpex and myself are basically saying the same thing, but with differing emphasis and clarity at various points.

Your point, independent of what methodology is used, that a disciplined approach is needed is the major issue. Once that is in place the rest is very much down to personal preference. Probably influenced, like most software usage, by what you first used and became accustomed to. I don't think there is a "best".

IMAP seems to me to be gaining popularity versus POP3. I of course started with POP3, and dislike webmail. IMAP sort of combines the two in my mind, and after vacillating a bit I have used IMAP via Thunderbird for the last few years on laptops, and recently webmail on the iPad for my domains, with webmail on the iPad for my few gmail/Hotmail accounts.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

with webmail on the iPad for my few gmail/Hotmail accounts.

Both can be more cleanly accessed by POP3 (& prob IMAP) on port 995 and SMTP on port 587 for Outlook.com and on port 465 for GMail.

I'll look into that . Still learning on the iPad. Multiple accounts is the issue, and I expect you are right that IMAP or POP3 would be preferable, bringing them into a unified interface.

I just found the way I have it at the moment the easiest to set up with reasonable convenience initially.

Is it true that with IMAP you need to be online all the time to read your existing emails? PN seems to think it is:

IMAP

As your messages are kept on our mail system, you'll need to be connected to the Internet to read them.

That would be a disadvantage of using IMAP that doesn't hold for POP3.

But I seem to remember that IMAP msgs are kept on PC by mail clients in IMAP folders, per server, separate from the local amalgamated POP3 folders.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Thu 26-Dec-13 05:31:54)