MER on ADSL2+

My connection switched back from MER to PPPoA several months ago.

Out of interest, is there anyone on Sky ADSL2+ who is still connected with MER?

Nope, PPPOA like yourself.

When using the Sky Hub my connection shows MER but when using my Billion 7800n its PPPOA

Yeah, I found that when I had MER available could still connect with PPPoA. Since the Sky Hub switched back to PPPoA, MER no longer connects on other routers. Interesting that some exchanges still have MER available on ADSL2+.

Still on ADSL2+ & MER here.

I wonder if this is equipment related as I was on PPPoA until I got the Sky Hub (I was part of the trial group) and when I switched to the that it went to MER.

I would switch back to the old Sagem to test but I've got everything running smoothly and, frankly, the Sagem is a (bigger) pile of the brown stuff.

Good question. I can't remember exactly when MER was disabled on my line, but I'm fairly sure it was before I plugged in a Sky Hub. My other router is a Sky D-Link DSL-2640S.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

Interesting that some exchanges still have MER available on ADSL2+.

My mate in Fleet, Hants, is on MER as of last Sat using a Sky Sagem F@ST2504.

Connected on MER at the Sandy exchange.

MER here

nsden aberdeen

Could be exchange related as I'm also on the Sandy exchange.

OT: I remember you asking about fibre before you moved to Sandy, just to let you know Sky Fibre is now available here

In reply to a post by Nighty1973:

Could be exchange related as I'm also on the Sandy exchange.

I get the impression it's done by exchange, yeah. Reconfiguration of MSANs affecting all lines connected to it.

Whitstable exchange, I was on MER now PPPoA, when it changed though really couldn't say, I think it was when the firmware was updated....

I'm thinking the same, when using the Sky Hub its MER but when using the Billion 7800n its PPPoA.

Another theory could be that routers other than the Sky Hub can't display the service as MER even if it is :/

Thanks for the heads up, I knew though as our cabinet is enabled I'm happy with the 17 meg i'm getting (at the moment) for the same price as the 2meg I was getting before, unless I get an offer/ incentive to move across

At my Home address I am connecting via PPPoA however my parents property was connecting via MER both of us were on the same exchange (Llanelli) My home router is Netgear934 however my Parents home router was the Segem F@st XXX

The kicker is that I am able to SYNC/connect at just under 10Mbps however, my Parents home router / line were only capable of SYNC/connecting at 5.5Mbps which gradually reduced sync speed to about 3.2 Mbps... Ended up cancelling my parents contract even after Sky Sales Team had initially estimated speeds between 11-14Mbps. What a Joke !

The Tech Team said to wait for the DLM to set itself over 10 day period.. this just never materialised.. It left us all with a sour taste as I recommended BSKYB to my folks.

In reply to a post by shaneosborne:

I'm thinking the same, when using the Sky Hub its MER but when using the Billion 7800n its PPPoA.

Another theory could be that routers other than the Sky Hub can't display the service as MER even if it is :/

If you set the connection up as PPPoA on the Billion then it would be wrong of the router to display the service as MER.

How do you go about setting up the 7800n as an MER Connection?

In reply to a post by shaneosborne:

How do you go about setting up the 7800n as an MER Connection?

It needs specific "Sky compatible" firmware to connect to Sky's "special" implementation of EthoA.

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Features/Article.asp...

Edited by Oliver341 (Thu 02-May-13 11:19:15)

Are there any benefits when using MER over PPPoA/E?

In reply to a post by shaneosborne:

Are there any benefits when using MER over PPPoA/E?

No, other than possibly getting a "sticky" IP address which may or may not be of interest.

In reply to a post by shaneosborne:

Are there any benefits when using MER over PPPoA/E?

It might be possible to get a 1500byte MTU over MER/EthoA as no longer a PPP header. This might show a slight performance improvement.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

It might be possible to get a 1500byte MTU over MER/EthoA as no longer a PPP header.

PPPoA has a 1500 byte MTU.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

It might be possible to get a 1500byte MTU over MER/EthoA as no longer a PPP header.

PPPoA has a 1500 byte MTU.

Good point! I was thinking PPPoE as used on FTTC :-/

By a sticky IP Address, you mean static?

Is this quite common? I ask because if it is likely to occur then it could save me some cash as I can cancel my DynDNS Account....

Sticky means it gives the same address most times. Static gives the same address every time.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by shaneosborne:

Are there any benefits when using MER over PPPoA/E?

No, other than possibly getting a "sticky" IP address which may or may not be of interest.

From a network operator point of view and all IP based networks are supposed to be cheaper to set up and easier to maintain if you believe the white papers published by the likes of Alcatel-Lucent.

ive had the same ip for 2 months or so faik.

Yes my Fibre Pro activated yesterday is MER. My ADSL2+ before it was also MER.

The only other ISP I've seen using it was BE on the Bonded Service, and who knows if that bodes well or not with the imminent merge.

Edited by therioman (Tue 21-May-13 07:46:16)

In reply to a post by therioman:

Yes my Fibre Pro activated yesterday is MER. My ADSL2+ before it was also MER.

Sky use MER for all fibre connections. It has far less overheads than PPPoE, as used by BT for example, which is quite CPU intensive by all accounts.

Still on MER here on the Shrewsbury exchange.

In reply to a post by simon194:

which is quite CPU intensive by all accounts.

There was a thread in the Fibre forum from a user with a 300meg FTTP service trying to find a router that could actually run at 300meg with PPPoE. Most couldn't with PPPoE enabled.

With the upto 80meg service its not going to be an issue.