ISP Throttling - Hack??

Unforunate for some people who's ISP throttles p2p/torrents at certain times of the day, we get bad speeds, now ive come across a few websites that try and hack this so called throttling, and trys to trick the isp, so it doesn't think your using torrent...

Has anyone been able to successfully use what ever method to trick the isp into thinking your not using p2p/torrent. One website instructs you to enable some sort of encription in azureus, but this didn't work.

HTTP downloads are reaching max speeds, torrent = 40k/bs...

thanks

ISPs can use two main methods to check to check for torrents. Ports used and reading the header. With port use they simply throttle the ports commonly used by BT clients, such as Azureus using the 6xxx ones. You can try changing your BT client from its default ports, try ports above 49192, which are reserved for private use. If they are reading traffic headers you can try selecting encryption in your client. Though even then an ISP can use deep packet inspection to see if it is torrent traffic and throttle accordingly. If both encryption and changing port numbers deosn't work then the ISP is using deep packet inspection to check for torrent traffic.

To be honest, if your ISP is using equipment that can detect encrypted p2p packets, you need to move to another ISP because they're investing way too much in traffic management and not enough in bandwidth........IMHO ofcourse.

Your not going to find any arguments with me there blugz

I think a hack to get IP profiles back from the depths would certainly be interesting on a BT IPStream line.

It seems to me that most of this thread is devoted to finding the wrong solution. Surely, getting round the ISP's practice is only going to lead to grief, at the very least, losing you the account (their practices, if they are any good at anything at all, will have been enshrined in their terms and conditions and acceptable use procedures).

Would it not be better just to find an ISP which gives you what you want at a price you are willing to pay? Of course if what you are willing to pay is not enough to buy what you want from any source, then you have a problem, but stretching the tolerance of a provider is hardly the most productive solution.

I agree that there seem to be a lot of providers who concentrate on controlling the problem at the expense of providing a possible solution. In that case, find one of the others.

A bit late coming back on this one as I have been busy However, I was with an ISP quite some time ago that sneakily introduced port throttling for various protocols and even denied it for weeks until it was beyond dispute. Nowhere in their T&C did it say that I had to user those ports when using those protocols so I was not in breach of anything by changing ports, especially as my overall usage was not excessive by even their standards. It seemed to me that they simply worked on the assumption that the average user was not knowledgeable enough to get round it, assuming the user knew what the problem was in the first place, while being aware that the more savvy probably was aware and could get round it. Though I agree with your other point about finding an ISP that suits ones needs better is the real long term solution and I only stayed with them long enough for my contract to finish after that.

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It seemed to me that they simply worked on the assumption that the average user was not knowledgeable enough to get round it, assuming the user knew what the problem was in the first place, while being aware that the more savvy probably was aware and could get round it.

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I am not sure I would want to employ someone who was that incompetent.

Well to be honest, looking at the operation of many ISPs over the last few years, competence is the last thing I would accuse them of

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Well to be honest, looking at the operation of many ISPs over the last few years, competence is the last thing I would accuse them of

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In that case, I change my plea. I am certain I wouldn't want to employ someone so incompetent.

I am close to satisfied with my current ISP and the last was good in the areas that affected me until they were taken over by one of whom you speak. I think that takeover indicated something less than complete confidence in the design of their business model and during the changeover it appeared that there were some serious deficiencies in mail server provision (but that was not something I used).