Yeah, I totally agree.

I've just tried setting my router to 'dynamic' with my static LLU connection and the ISP fails to assign an IP address at all.

I know people on dynamic who, having obtained an IP, "hard code" it as static in the router and connect ok.

I guess no two networks are alike!

John.

Maybe I've been lucky... various routers but only 2 ISPs (Metronet and IDNet, both static IPs), I just set the router to "Get IP from the WAN" (or whatever the wording is) and it's never failed yet

I think when I was with Zen (and/or Nildram), I seem to remember the router could be set to dynamic or static - it would still pick up the correct static IP.

But they weren't LLU. BE doesn't require a username or password (I don't know if that's typical of LLU) so not issuing an IP at all is probably the secure way to do it.

John.

In reply to a post by John_ON:

I think when I was with Zen (and/or Nildram), I seem to remember the router could be set to dynamic or static - it would still pick up the correct static IP.

Correct.

I have been with Zen (on line 1) for over 7 years (since ADSL became available).
Line two has been with Nildram and Entanet.

These (and other lines, I have set up) always get the correct IP address, with the (DrayTek) routers set to either dynamic or static.

In reply to a post by John_ON:

But they weren't LLU. BE doesn't require a username or password (I don't know if that's typical of LLU) so not issuing an IP at all is probably the secure way to do it.

John.

with Be if you use a different router to the one supplied then you have to fudge the MAC address so that the connection is recognised, Sky's password if I remember was derived from the MAC address of the router, really and truly on a fixed line a username and password should not be required to log in to the ISP because the connection is from a KNOWN number.

The bit about the fixed line - not always true - for IPStream connections the CLI/circuit details are not passed to the ISP.

In reply to a post by The_Voyager:

.... on a fixed line a username and password should not be required to log in to the ISP because the connection is from a KNOWN number.

Maybe it could have been implemented that way.

But with my Zen connections (here and 12 miles away), I can use either username at either address and it all works. (or it did last time I took the trouble to try it a few years ago). So a password is needed to stop another Zen user stealing all my bandwidth.

I can not, however, swap usernames (and hence ISPs) on my two local connections.

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edit: as the original post was about IP addresses

When I swapped the usernames with my remote line, it swapped the static IP addresses as well. Useful when originally setting up the server for the remote location

Edited by Sandgrounder (Thu 19-Aug-10 15:27:56)

...with Be if you use a different router to the one supplied then you have to fudge the MAC address so that the connection is recognised,...

Now on O2. I haven't used the Be or O2 supplied routers on my Be/O2 line. I've only ever had my Netgear attached and didn't need to fudge the MAC.

with Be if you use a different router to the one supplied then you have to fudge the MAC address so that the connection is recognised

Utter tosh

Well, I'm sure I read that somewhere, and I have the Be supplied router MAC number in the config of my Netgear DG834GT