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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 17:35:41
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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I'm guessing the upstairs socket is back wired off the downstairs socket on the green/white pair that is connected to the front plate downstairs. Presumably with the front plate off downstairs, the upstairs socket is dead?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Aug-13 17:38:10
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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Sounds like 2 separate lines on the 2 pairs that usually supply premises.

Would you mind dialing 1470 17070 from each extension and listen to the circuit definitions?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 18:02:42
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You are correct! Took faceplate off downstairs and line upstairs is dead


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 18:03:37
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same number on each line...
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 01-Aug-13 18:21:02
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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Good! The 2nd pair to the old upstairs office must be deaded somewhere in the house.

So the line split outside house does not come into play and all your current line wiring must come off the downstairs NTE5 master.

The upstairs socket should not be an NTE5 master and may be affecting things by the presence of its duplicate master capacitor in the circuit.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 18:45:11
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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Would it be worth swapping it with a simpler terminal?

Just tested stats on both lines again - Downstream synch speed is about 1Mbps slower on the upstairs socket. That being the case, makes me think that it must be affecting the downstairs line in some way.
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(staff) Thu 01-Aug-13 19:27:59
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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With the faceplate removed so the extension is not working take a look at the stats, if they are better then simplest method is remove the ring wire so that the extension has less of an effect noise wise

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/index.php

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 20:26:03
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Re: phoneline split outside house - broadband drops frequent


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Downstream is improved by exactly 1Mbps! - which is the same difference of downstream data connecting router to upstairs socket (as compared to downstairs).So improvement is 3.5Mbps to 4.5Mbps.

But upstream is still the same 448 Kbps which is obviously the ADSL limitation.

However, pages are loading a little more snappily, so I'd say that's a result.

I'll pull out the green and green and white wires and fold them back. We never use upstairs line anyway. Unless that seems like a clumsy way to do it, by anyone better informed.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 01-Aug-13 20:48:42
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the best answer is always a single pair terminating on an NTE5 where the modem connects, with any extensions filtered.

A split ahead of the master is a bridge tap and a bad idea.

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Phil

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(deleted) Thu 01-Aug-13 23:54:25
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Thought as much. Will have to read up on it as I have no idea as to the wiring scheme. Have rewired phone sockets before though. But not NTE5 'out of bounds' demarcation... Perhaps someone can show me a link that illustrates it clearly.
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