Yes, dendrites it was. Which I then googled.

It could have been pure coincidence, or a remote possibility that the engineer momentarily disconnected the circuit, reconnected perfectly at the cabinet, but the broken circuit could not re-establish cleanly at the NTE5.

It remains a possibility that dendrites on the test socket connectors were the cause of the symptoms.

but it was only after connecting the 2wire, that speeds returned to normal with the HH3.

HH3 at socket and wires at telegraph pole, it was the same!

when I connected the 2Wire to telegraph pole, it went to 4.572, and then the HH3, was back to 4.484

and the RJ11 connected to the telegraph wires entering the building was via a choc block, which was left in situ with the wiring to NTE5

and we never removed the RJ11 from NTE5, we used new ones...

anyway, maybe looking at getting a new modern router, maybe a Billion router

at least it proves, it's outside!

Edited by einsteinagogo (Tue 07-Jun-16 22:19:39)

That post is rather difficult to understand.

In an earlier one and here you talk about connecting the router to the wires coming into the building. Do you mean before they reach the master?

Now you talk about connecting to the wires at the telegraph pole. What?????

"we never removed the RJ11 from NTE5, we used new ones" is incomprehensible to me. New whats, where?

Yes, correct before they reach the master, incoming telegraph pole wire....the wire coming from the telegraph pole in this property does not come direct to the master socket, it comes into the door frame, and then there is a BT junction box on the door frame, and then a internal white cable run to the NTE5 (master socket).

we just connected direct at this point....

this rules out all internal wiring, the fault was still present here with HH3!

for testing we left the RJ11 to the router connected to NTE5 with filter, and just swapped it at the router.

anyway all working fine now...

just need to work out, if want to remain with 2wire 2700hgv, HH3, or new router.

As line has been "reset" by 2wire back to normal, or where we were at the start.

at least it proves, it's outside!

No, it really doesn't ?!?!?!?

so where else is the fault, if I connect directly to the wires which go to the telegraph pole,

1. with HH3 (sync 2313)
2. connect with 2wire (sync 4752)
3. connect HH3 again (sync 4484)
4. connect 2wire again (sync 4752)

and all is good, everywhere

there is nothing internally to check, or connect to.....

everything else has been ruled out.

anyway fixed now until it plays up again.....

unless its weather and atmospherics!!!!

sunspot activity and cosmic rays

Edited by einsteinagogo (Tue 07-Jun-16 22:56:52)

In reply to a post by einsteinagogo:

we just connected direct at this point....

What did you connect at that point? A bare wire from the router?

standard ADSL RJ11 to RJ11 (with the RJ11 chopped off), and the bare wires connected via a choc block

The difficulty in working out what you did, and therefor where the problem was, is it reads differently every time you post the detail.

For instance, when you connected to the wires from the outside, at the junction box, what did you connect? Bare wires from the router?

If you've been loosening and tightening, or disconnecting/reconnecting wires at that box then there's a fair chance that's where the dendrites were. Or even, is there any trace of damp in or around that box? Does the wire come through the doorframe then downwards?

Yes, bare wires from router.

First HH3 - same sync speed.

Second 2wire - increase in sync speed

(same cable used just unplugged from HH3 and moved to 2wire)

no changes made to cable, after original connection with choc block

No damp around box, it's inside at top of door frame. no the wire comes straight through door frame straight into box, horizontally.

there is also a porch at the front of house, which also protects the front door, and cable from pole, as the cable from pole comes into the porch, so it's not exposed to any outside elements.

Edited by einsteinagogo (Tue 07-Jun-16 23:11:59)