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So we�re reducing the downstream speed reduction on 30Mb and above from 75% to 50% and introducing STM on 50Mb and 100Mb. We'll be publishing the full information on this on Monday at http://www.virginmedia.com/traffic/.
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It's not that bad, is it? Looks like on the top package you can download 10 GB in the evening and then you get throttled back to 50 Mb/s. So the same as we had before the speed upgrade. Even throttled it's faster than the truly unlimited Sky fibre package.
Edited by deleted (Mon 02-Apr-12 19:44:06)
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Even throttled it's faster than the truly unlimited Sky fibre package.
Only if your area isn't oversubscribed and those limits go nowhere towards ensuring it won't be.
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Even throttled it's faster than the truly unlimited Sky fibre package.
We don't even know if sky are planning 80/20 or not, sky can be open about some things and tight about others, for all we know they might spring 80 on us within a month of launch
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Edited by deleted (Mon 02-Apr-12 23:46:51)
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My area isn't over subscribed and it worked fine until 10am this morning and now it's totally stuck even after the 9PM end of period!
In that case it suggests a fault so call it in.
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Perhaps it's not working properly? Or it's in the middle of being rolled out or something so there might be gaps?
I installed a few games from my steam library this morning (about 18 gigs total) thinking what the hey, after 10GB, finishing off at 15mbps is fast enough, and I was never throttled. I just kept on going at 30mbit/s even though I definitely went well over the limit.
Not a complaint, mind you 
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Well I am not sure what's going on.. Me neither now! This is my speed test result on my 50 Mbit connection:
I haven't downloaded anything today! Something has gone wrong.
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Nobody has been in my house allday and my modem has been switched off so i know it hasnt been used at all.
Just booted up and started to download some game updates which were coming down very slowso i did a speedtest , hey presto 20/4 on a 50 meg connection
how is this when the net hasnt been used since 6pm yesterday ? must get throttled for not using your connection aswell lol
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The STM does not mean you can be sure of getting the maximum speed, asked Virgin why you don't get their advertised speeds?
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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congestion
everyone seems to be blaming any slowdown on STM now.
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everyone seems to be blaming any slowdown on STM now.
My take on it is that because there's been an STM change people are actually starting to check their speeds. That seems to be revealing that far more areas are now congested since VM lost their corporate marbles and started to sell what their network has no chance of supporting - 100Mbps unlimited. It still won't support it with the new STM measures IMO. A couple of torrent freaks in an area (say 1% of users) is all it takes to cripple it if they are on the 100/10 product and most high usage users will be as it's only a few quid more than the low end packages.
Of course the abysmal Superhub doesn't help either.
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the TM is quite crippling
reminds me of when i was using them on a 20mbit connection
download a dvd size iso
bang at around 3gb connection is crippled
people think oki fine you been throttled but you try downloading something and using your connection at the same time - it is horrible
then u have to wait till hours
basically what they are saying is don't download until after midngiht and before 9am
like saying your buying a car but you have a speed limit in place half of the day
i was tempted to go back to VM based on cashback and cheap 30mbit connection but now i rather stay on my truely unlimited 02 20mbit connection - even with their current problems still far more attractive in my eyes than this
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This policy hasn't gone live yet and roll out will be done on a phased basis starting this weekend right?
Details - http://community.virginmedia.com/virgin/board/messag...
Edited by deleted (Fri 06-Apr-12 19:03:06)
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hmm the thing that annoys me most about this as a virgin customer (long story but when I moved to my home it was the best connection I could get) is its very limiting when it comes to what I want to do. I don't want to download vast amounts of data every month, I don't want to even download near what the cap would be if I did just under the limits each day. But what I do want to do is once in a while do some downloading and not have to spread it over several days just to not get restricted.
I'm a strong believer in digital distribution, I but games on steam, I test software (windows 8 customer preview for example) and I use streaming services. With this policy even with the biggest flagship product they have I cant say on 1 day of the month I can download the latest game from steam in reasonable (IE daytime/evening when im using my computer) hours without being limited.
Sure my limit means my connection will still work but im not a bandwidth hog if my usage is negligible every other day of the month I don't feel I should have to suffer reduced bandwidth at the one time in a month I may choose to use my connection.
It's purely my personal opinion and based on my own usage but it does leave a bitter taste 
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It could be a lot worse to be fair and for a mass market product it's not bad at all.
This is also a temporary and interim measure until the newer more granular usage and port load based traffic management is available in the early summer in time for the 120Mb uplift.
Even during the managed periods you still have 50Mb downstream, more than any xDSL product provides right now.
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It is school holiday time remember
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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everyone seems to be blaming any slowdown on STM now.
My take on it is that because there's been an STM change people are actually starting to check their speeds. That seems to be revealing that far more areas are now congested since VM lost their corporate marbles and started to sell what their network has no chance of supporting - 100Mbps unlimited. It still won't support it with the new STM measures IMO. A couple of torrent freaks in an area (say 1% of users) is all it takes to cripple it if they are on the 100/10 product and most high usage users will be as it's only a few quid more than the low end packages.
Of course the abysmal Superhub doesn't help either.
yep sounds logical. especially as everyone started blaming it when it was then revealed it wasnt live yet in most areas.
Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 08-Apr-12 14:55:12)
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The old low capacity per node is a well known contention issue as old as the docsis and adsl which is better debate.
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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when i was with VM they randomly throttled back my connection as if i had hit my caps every now and again
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when i was with VM they randomly throttled back my connection as if i had hit my caps every now and again I doubt it - you probably just suffered from congestion which can strike very quickly on networks using skinny local pipes which are part and parcel of how cable has to operate.
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i use to ring em up about it
they reset my modem then miraculously my connection was working at full throttle again
shame as i was prepared to move to vm a few months back but i always knew they were going to start messing around with the higher tier products based on their cashback offers and half price deals
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i am still sniffing about though 
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