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do a screenshot as that url needs a valid VM account to login.
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Register (or login) on our website and you will not see this ad.
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But no mention of changes to upload speed in the announcement? If anything, they've dropped any reference to this when you look at comparing packages etc.
I'm only on the L30 package with a measly 2mb upload speed, it's not been upgraded from the last round of speed boosts yet. I don't really need 50mb download speed, but they'll eventually push everyone up to it I guess.
I would have been happier had they got that sorted as it's the one area that's letting them down against products like BT Infinity. I need to send a couple of files a week and that's when everything else has to stop to do that.
That's before I mention ongoing buffering of things like the BBC iPlayer and other things they said would be a thing of the past in TV ads that they then pulled...
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Okay done.
I have pre registered but I still get the popup and I have to screenshot it quickly before it says " You've already registered your interest"
I will not pre-register it know why because upgrade could end up stuck at 152/12 and also renewal 12 months contract mean you might end up losing discount loyalty. I rather wait until it come out and speak to retentions instead.
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I'm prepared to bet 1p that there will be Yet Another Price Rise to pay for this additional bounty...
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Didn't you pretend to leave VM?
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Generally Virgin says that their existing broadband customers should expect to receive a download boost of �at least 20Mbps�. But uploads will not be improved and you�ll have to sign-up to a new 12 month contract in order to benefit.
Rubbish upload as it proved BT FTTC still the fastest upload.
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They should have 200/20 instead but they won't do it. Only 152/15 is rather poor upload.
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Upload will be not including. Link here: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Announcements/Ho...
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Indeed not. Upgrading the downstream is relatively painless, upstream somewhat more difficult.
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Yeah, it pretty stupid. As we know virgin media will NEVER gonna to improve upload for the next five years at least!
If BT Openreach (secret plan) to roll out 80/20 FTTC to become 160/20 then I believed many virgin customers will move away from virgin to join BT.
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Yeah, it pretty stupid. As we know virgin media will NEVER gonna to improve upload for the next five years at least!
If BT Openreach (secret plan) to roll out 80/20 FTTC to become 160/20 then I believed many virgin customers will move away from virgin to join BT.
On the first paragraph you're wrong, and on the second paragraph you either made it up or have been speaking with some poorly informed field technicians. 160Mb is out of reach on FTTC right now and the required changes would require consultation with service providers via Ofcom.
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Rubbish. Bt can do FTTC up to 160/20 if they want. Yes, if BT want it, they go ahead with it. BT are lip sealed secret.
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What VDSL2 profile is that using?
Am guessing you are working to profile 30 and allowing for vectoring, or is there some other secret sauce involved?
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Okay. Show me one person's modem stats on this forum that show an attainable rate of 160Mb.
Just one.
Then remember that 10% of people must be able to hit that level for ISPs to be able to sell it.
With that in mind how do you suggest BT use either 30a profile or pair bonding without talking to Ofcom? Pair bonding requires regulatory changes, 30a an INFP change.
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Rubbish. Bt can do FTTC up to 160/20 if they want. Yes, if BT want it, they go ahead with it. BT are lip sealed secret. As MrSaffron and Ignitionnet have said, BT Openreach cannot trivially move to anything like 160/20 on FTTC. It would require a move to Profile 30a (which needs a change in the Analogue Network Frequency Plan), which, to my understanding, needs new line cards in the cabinets and new modems. Even the specification for ISP supplied FTTC equipment only requires Profile 17a support.
A commercial 160/20 service is likely to be difficult without vectoring, as the speed drops from crosstalk could be substantial.
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Will my broadband speed upgrade cost any extra money?
Absolutely not! Your speed upgrade will not change the amount you pay each month for your broadband service.
Yeah right. That's why prices have gone up more than 20% since the last "free" upgrade! And no doubt we can expect another inflation busting hike in the new year.
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There gonna to be 6.7% rise in Feb 2014. Nothing is free! Virgin is hidden "what's the catch" and lying again.
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The old Digital Region network had low take-up so low cross talk and gave this sort of information
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5160-origin-shows...
Profile 30 is much more about boosting upstream speeds than pushing download to the extreme.
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The old Digital Region network had low take-up so low cross talk and gave this sort of information
Yes indeed, I did remember that article and thank you for it.
Sticking a VDSL 2 modem next to a 17a line card and connecting them with an inch of copper won't get 160Mb, I think 17a just doesn't have enough Hz to pack that much throughput into with the current maximum modulation density available.
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Average of 6.7%, some things may be less and some more.
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And twelve months ago
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5602-speed-boosts...
Watch the graph scales, and see that Profile 30a only boosts download for those under 200m from the cab. I'd say those graphs were fairly ideal with minimal cross talk, i.e. vectoring unlikely to add much more if anything.
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^^ So a profile of 17a can get 120/40 from 80/20 profile 8b. So, BT can do 120/40 next year if they want?
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BT use 17a now, they have never sold 80/20 on 8b.
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BT use 17a now, they have never sold 80/20 on 8b.
Right, so BT use 17a now. Mean they can add 120/40 if they wish to challenge virgin media 152/12?
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^^ So a profile of 17a can get 120/40 from 80/20 profile 8b. So, BT can do 120/40 next year if they want? The Profile 17a graph in that story shows 120/40 is achievable at no more than 500 feet (so, just over 150 metres) from the cabinet - and this likely assumes the local infrastructure is in ideal condition and there is minimal crosstalk (or that vectoring is working ideally).
The current Openreach FTTC modems have 100 Mbit/s Ethernet ports, so will struggle to manage more than about 95 Mbit/s actual throughput.
As Ignitionnet has said, a service can only be marketed as offering a certain speed if more than 10% of potential customers can receive that speed. We may see a faster offering once vectoring is rolled out, but it is unlikely to offer much more than 80/20 in most cases.
I'd rather stick with my current 80/20 fast path than have a slight increase in speed with interleaving.
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David_W what do u think of virgin media 152/12? good or very bad! I think it pretty poor to be honest. They should have gone for 200/20 instead.
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Are they actually spending all this extra money investing in the network or are they just changing the numbers in our modems and collecting the profit?
To be honest even another 6.7% rise would still be £8 a month cheaper than getting a phone line and a fibre package. But I would imagine that prices for fibre packages will tend to come down in future and the gap will close? Especially if Virgin continue the way they are going.
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Not until they deploy G.Vector widely. Hardly anyone would get close to 120Mb/40Mb and it's required that 10% of people can reach a speed before it can be advertised.
BT have never and will never compete with Virgin Media on speed.
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David_W what do u think of virgin media 152/12? good or very bad! I think it pretty poor to be honest. They should have gone for 200/20 instead. You have to design services with the underlying technology in mind. FTTC is uncontended back to the cabinet. Cable uses shared channels.
With shared channels, traffic can be managed to optimise the use of the downstream, as only one piece of equipment is transmitting on the downstream. On the upstream, multiple talkers need to share the same resource, with varying strategies used depending on the technology. If I remember correctly, the DOCSIS cable modem technology involves each modem being told when to transmit, which allows the system to optimise the upstream throughput.
I'm not familiar with the precise configuration used by Virgin Media at present, but EuroDOCSIS 3.0 with 8 downstream channels and 4 upstream channels has a usable throughput of 400/108 Mbit/s across all the users of the channel group. Exhausting the available upstream bandwidth has a devastating effect on all customers on that channel group, so even allowing for contention, you have to be cautious about the upstream cap.
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Mine is currently configured with 8 downstream and 2 upstream.
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Still waiting for a scheduled rollout of the upload upgrades to match the 10% claim.
I only know of some (perhaps now most) 120mb customers having 12mb uploads.
60mb customers stuck on 3mbps upload and 30mbps on 1.5mbps.
Double my upload speeds please virgin, then lets talk about download again.
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If I remember correctly, the DOCSIS cable modem technology involves each modem being told when to transmit, which allows the system to optimise the upstream throughput.
Yes indeed. Periodically, usually ever 2ms, an upstream bandwidth allocation MAP is broadcast to all modems informing of when they can transmit. If a modem requires upstream bandwidth and has none in the map there is a space in the upstream MAP, a contention slot, where any modem can attempt to send a request for upstream bandwidth. A modem broadcasts a request in a contention slot, it is granted within the upstream MAP, and they then send the actual upstream burst in the dedicated time slot they are granted in the MAP.
That's the DOCSIS request-grant upstream cycle. If the upstream is congested a modem may have to wait multiple MAPs before it gets a chance to transmit, that's the cause of the DOCSIS jitter.
I'm not familiar with the precise configuration used by Virgin Media at present, but EuroDOCSIS 3.0 with 8 downstream channels and 4 upstream channels has a usable throughput of 400/108 Mbit/s across all the users of the channel group.
8 downstream, 2 upstream is standard, 400Mb down, 36Mb up. However there are moves towards 27Mb upstream channels, and up to 4 of them in a bonded group. There are also areas where even though modems are bonded to 2 upstreams there are 3 or 4 to choose from.
Moreover more than 8 downstreams can be added. A modem might only be able to acquire 8 channels at once but spreading all the modems across 12 channels will reduce load.
It is possible to balance modems across channels as they don't acquire all the channels at once, they acquire a primary channel which, via a MAC Domain Descriptor message, informs them of the information they need on the other downstream channels. By varying the information provided, say by offering 1-8, then 5-12 to modems as they come online they can be balanced across the downstreams with native DOCSIS 3 load balancing within the bonded groups taking care of the rest.
The same MDD message will also inform which upstream channels to bond, too.
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I only know of some (perhaps now most) 120mb customers having 12mb uploads.
120Mb has never had anything other than a 12Mb upstream. There are no plans to increase upstream with downstream in this wave, that will come later.
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120Mb has never had anything other than a 12Mb upstream. There are no plans to increase upstream with downstream in this wave, that will come later.
The previous wave of doubling had plans and still has plans to increase the upload on all tiers so it's 10%
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Up-to-60Mb-Speed...
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Indeed, though I did say 'with downstream'. It might go to 3Mb and 6Mb but won't go to 5Mb and 10Mb to preserve the 10:1 ratio until after all the downstream uplift has been done.
Same as with this lot really, downstream first then up.
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Think slightly crossed wires, I was just bemoaning the fact they've failed to deliver on their last promise of upgrades in it's entirety and yet already they're moving on to the next marketing ploy.
It's not that I don't appreciate the increased download speeds but I'm not really maxing out the 60mbps, what I do frequently max out is the 3mbps upload. When open reach pull some fibre round here hopefully there will be some better choice.
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We're still waiting for our 6MB upload that's supposed to go with our 60MB download.
We only get 3MB upload at the present.
Our local box is oversubscribed and the upgrade to that equipment won't happen till the end of December they say.
So our TV service can be sketchy at times and broadband download frequently slows to a crawl.
Sometime in 2014 is the best I can get out of Customer Service for the 6MB upload that we're supposed to be getting.
They want to be sorting out their regular service before they go boasting about doubling down speeds.
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/images/news/5775-virgi...
Interesting scatter plot with upload speeds as a line
Most go and have another look and see if the 152 Mbps testing areas show up 
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Sorry I wasn't clear, was referring to the upcoming wave of upgrades, the last set of upstream upgrades are a work in progress still, the downstream having completed a while ago.
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wow nice data, I see on the 100 tier the thick red line isnt so thick
you have thse for other isps also and is there a public page with them on?
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What is the x axis?
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What is the x axis?
It has to be proportion of speed tests.
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I can't believe that there are more 60-120Mbps tests than there are 10-30Mbps tests even it those on higher speeds are more likely to test there are far far fewer of them. It suggests some selection process other than the actual number of tests.
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No selection process at all, beyond people visiting our tester to test their connection.
Where we know the proportion of customers on a speed tier e.g. from financial results we can adjust the figures to arrive at an average speed for an ISP overall.
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I can see OR Upgrading to 30a next year (early), then vectoring late/early next year. The modems already support 30a so only new line cards will be needed.
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Fair enough. I thought only a fairly small percentage took the higher tiers and there looked to be a quite even spread of tests across them all although accurately estimating the number of dots is tricky for sure. Presumably then those taking the higher tiers spend more time speed testing which makes a sort-of logic.
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I can see OR Upgrading to 30a next year (early), then vectoring late/early next year. The modems already support 30a so only new line cards will be needed.
Mean it will be roll out each cabinets or each exchanges.
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The modems also only have 100Mb Fast Ethernet ports, and 30a line cards are less port dense and more expensive.
Until they come down in price and match the port density of the 17a cards not likely. If it were Openreach would already be using the cards, not putting 17a cards into kit only to replace it later.
There's also the issue that 30a is of zero benefit on the downstream and no real commercial driver upstream.
It seems unlikely. BT's next course will be vectoring then G.Fast from what has been in the news.
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That is bizaree
What was showing you maxed out and what OS/flash version/browser were you using?
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The modems also only have 100Mb Fast Ethernet ports
I guess that's now resolved with the Home Hub 5. Uncertain as to what other providers will end up doing
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only thing I will say regarding 30a ignition is if you check kitz forums there is discussions on the new firmware been rolled out and things like a 4th US channel have been added to the vdsl driver which indicates a future 30a rollout.
In regards to the line cards, personally I dont see it happening any time soon, is it business sense to replace existing cards only purchased recently, BT would be replacing cards in dslams still been rolled out and only rolled out in existing areas anytime within last 0-3 years. If they were planning it I would have expected them to be using V41's in the ECI cabinets.
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only thing I will say regarding 30a ignition is if you check kitz forums there is discussions on the new firmware been rolled out and things like a 4th US channel have been added to the vdsl driver which indicates a future 30a rollout.
The VDSL driver is one part of the firmware that isn't going to be customised though.
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The VDSL driver is one part of the firmware that isn't going to be customised though. Indeed - the modem's VDSL driver will come from the chipset manufacturer as a blob, which is shipped unmodified by equipment vendors such as Huawei.
With the Openreach supplied modems only having a 100 Mbit/s Ethernet port, the DSLAM line cards only supporting Profile 17a (the Profile 30a line cards have half the port density, as Ignitionnet has mentioned, also I believe they have higher power consumption) and SIN 498 only requiring Profile 17a support for CP supplied FTTC equipment, I doubt Profile 30a is part of Openreach's plans for the foreseeable future.
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It's not accurate anyway.. When it was doing the 6x test it was maxing me out but it only shows as 60mbps?
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
bizarre. I think you'd see that if your own kit couldn't support 120Mbps. Are you running on gigabit ethernet and are you 100% sure there is no fault on the cable - one bust connector and it will only run 100Mbps which may well give the result you see unless the test is UDP.
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The 6x HTTP is six TCP files delivered over HTTP protocol.
Hence asking for os/browser/flash info as it may be a combo that cannot cope with that sort of multiple thread load.
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I understand that. I can't see that somebody prepared to pay for 120Mbps cable is going to run a clunker of a PC though,
Is the "TBB test" UDP? I'm not that clued up on this stuff but assume there may be less collisions with UDP and that's why it's faster.
It's certainly curious.
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if it is the case profile 30a needs new cards (I didnt know this as after all they switched to 17a easily) then yes I defenitly agree.
The hg612 been limited to 100mbit port isnt really a showstopper but the linecards are a bigger issue.
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The giveaway indicator is that vectoring trials are underway using 17a.
If 30a was about to be deployed why test vectoring on 17a in a public trial?
The Internet rumour machine is great, but sometimes people need to spend time reading more than just the rumours.
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Is the "TBB test" UDP? I'm not that clued up on this stuff but assume there may be less collisions with UDP and that's why it's faster.
Less collisions?
UDP is faster because it doesn't care about packet loss or flow control, and also has less overhead in the actual frame than TCP.
Collisions happen at layer 1, physical, when a simplex connection has two transceivers transmitting simultaneously hence no usable message is received by the devices sharing that layer 1 network. UDP and TCP operate on layer 4, transport, hence make no difference to collision count. Errors can only propagate up the stack as they are encapsulated on the way down.
The TBB test is TCP. Port 8095 for single thread test, port 80 for 6 thread HTTP.
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TCP port 8095 and a single thread
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Collisions on the internal ethernet connection - sending an ACK could cause a collision with an incoming packet requiring a re-transmit and making the measured speed lower. If no ACK transmissions are required as in UDP there will be no collisions from that particular connection but I'm guessing other random connections may still cause some.
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Switched Ethernet is almost invariably full duplex, meaning the connection can send and receive simultaneously. This makes collisions between a sent and a received packet impossible.
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Unless connecting through a hub the Ethernet connection is almost certainly full duplex and uses different wires in each direction.
The same cannot be said for WiFi, however.
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tell us the browser/os/flash version we can try to reproduce it and maybe find a solution or a reason for the issue
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So a 100Mbps connector could deliver the full 100 regardless of protocol. Fair enough. I admitted up front I wasn't all that clued up on this stuff - when I learned about ethernet it was the old coax type . It looks like some other explanation is needed then - maybe MrS's doubts over Flash etc.
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I remember ages back when I was on 50Mbps that TBB only showed about 30 where others showed the full 50. At the time I put that down to iffy peering. These days it agrees well with other testers for me What "meter" are you talking about that shows your running at full tilt?
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Thanks. I'm viewing flat and replied to the first response on duplex which I have heard of but didn't know the consequences of which when pointed out are pretty obvious.
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Must be a measurement error in the client then I suppose. Strange.
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The maths in the flash client are fine, something is messing with the data feed to the calculation side, figuring that out is the fun part.
If the maths in the client has a systematic error we would see it on all connections.
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I know that some AV buffering can screw things up - usually causing multi megabit over reporting with some testers.
I have no reason to believe that the reported results I see are wrong - when I did complain ages back that the TBB test was under reporting I could see that the connection genuinely was running slower to you than other testers. That doesn't happen now and never was conclusively explained but my suspicion is a peering route running overloaded (probably because somebody else said it was).
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Ignore anything from the days of the old tester when it just ran one download test.
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Show me where I commented on what you were doing or said it was in any way bad for anyone beyond VM, or that you were somehow not paying your way and I'll be happy to retract what I wrote.
The only opinions expressed were about VM. Like all ISPs who don't charge per GB they have an interest in users using as little bandwidth as possible, making their actions strange.
If your conscience twinged in any way that's your prerogative. You were used as an example of VM's desperation to retain customers, nothing more Sir.
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I never read any article stating specifically its 17a, since you know more than me, do you know if any of the trials are on ECI cabinets?
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2 main reasons are probably.
a loss making customer still has more potential to make money than no customers. plus if you have a policy of not spending money to relieve congestion meaning heavy usage doesnt cost you much if anything than such customers are fine as long as you can accept moaning customers.
2nd reason is shareholder reports, a CEO wants to report growing customer numbers to his/her shareholders.
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They did used to boot unprofitable customers off the network but that was apparently not allowable by the ASA if they wanted to continue to advertise it as an unlimited service.
When companies are run by the marketing department a lot of their methods of operating appear loony (except to the marketing department I assume).
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I thought you said that you didn't use much nowadays.
Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard
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So they could simply change their marketing and get rid of people like me the dead wood if you like and then sort things out.
History says they won't as they've made umpteen changes to continue doing so. If they couldn't advertise unlimited they'd be one of the few big players that can't and I expect they fear that would lose them market share.
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My only reason for sticking with VM is the fact that moving to FTTC would cost quite a bit more and plain ADSL would be quite a comedown on the speeds I get even from a congested VM segment.
Had they not given me a substantial discount instead of the £1.50 increase they wanted to I'd be on FTTC right now. It would have been TalkTalk though based on price and I'm not 100% sure that particular leopard has changed its spots although complaints do appear to have dropped.
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No need to quote as you are replying to me.
I use less than 3GB / month. Is your 200GB work related or personal use? If personal then it does seem a bit excessive.
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If it's 200GB for one person it may not be excessive. In a house share of 5 adults mix students and young professions we hit around 1tb a month fairly regularly. Don't think torrenting here, just a heavy amount of streaming services and services linked with our professions.
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It's easy to burn through the data as well. When you can stream something from youtube 1080p you do because it looks better. Same with netflix and iPlayer. Even for my parents, who were once light users of the internet, they now frequently stream television at a time that better suits them because they have an internet connection that enables that without any of the pitfalls (buffering etc.) so when they usually used a modest 3-5gb a month it's now regularly around 100gb.
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Sky get enough of my cash for their TV so no more for their BB.
I don't have a smart phone and my BB is currently free. I do have a life outside of TV viewing so no need to stream daily.
Just pointing out that you have constantly swapped ISP because of issues, then state that you don't download much nowadays and now changing your mind about things again. Fickle springs to mind!
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i use between 200-250GB a month which is streaming mainly from netflix and youtube that me and my boyfriend uses.
I do not consider that to be high usage over say 30 days.
AMD FX-4100 X4, MSI 990FXA-GD80, 16GB DDR 3 Cosair Vengence 1600Mhz, 9351.1GB Hard Disk Space, 2GB ATI 6670 HD PCI-E 16x Graphics, 850watt PSU.
Ex AOL Dialup 56k Customer....
Ex Freedom2Surf 512k and Ex Eclipse Internet 2mb Customer.
Virgin Media 120mb Cable.
Virgin Media R EVIL!!!
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That equates to 2 HD films per night. Not too excessive.
Coventry IS fickle as he states one thing one week then changes his mind the next. He used to download the whole of the internet just to prove a point and get free/cheap BB.
I still recon that those who use more should pay more.
Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard
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Edited by deleted (Sat 23-Nov-13 16:00:21)
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If you had simply accepted that others have differing opinions then I would not be issuing this warning, but the insults used suggest that you have learnt very little in how to interact online without being confrontational.
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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