Sky,Virgin Media 30M or O2 unlimited ??

I am trying to set a broadband for my new flat but I am not sure how to choose among those 3 list below.
Can anyone please comment on those 3 below regarding fair usage etc ?

BTW I have used Be boradband for 4 years and decide to move on from that.
Many thanks
Gob

Virgin 30M unlimited^
http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband/up-to-30mb.html

Sky unlimited (Up to 20Mb download)
http://www.sky.com/shop/broadband-talk/broadband-opt...

O2 unlimited
http://www.o2.co.uk/broadband

Are Sky and O2 LLU? If either aren't LLU you would be wise to remove them as a choice.

See http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search for the LLU operators at you exchange.

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New flat doesn't imply old exchange!

Thanks for reply.
I did a search with Samkonws broadband checker with my postcode, and the following comes up:

* BT Wholesale ADSL
* BT Wholesale ADSL Max
* BT Wholesale WBC (21CN)
* BT Wholesale SDSL
* BT FTTC
* AOL LLU
* O2 / Be LLU
* Bulldog LLU
* TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
* Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU
* Pipex LLU
* Tiscali LLU
* Tiscali TV (via Tiscali LLU)
* Virgin Media (Cable)

Too many choice, how should I choose among them ??

Ouch! Missed that

In reply to a post by Gob00st:

Too many choice, how should I choose among them ??

Depends on your requirements, which you haven't stated.

BTW: Why not stay with Be?

Are you aware of the O2 speed restrictions at various times? That isn't exactly "moving on" from Be.

You could do a house move of the Be, unless it is already dead. Your best choice in my opinion would be an FTTC ISP connection, which you haven't mentioned.

Requirement is simple :I am quite a heavy internet user /downloader. Also I require stable connection. A wired connection might be good. BeBox does provide that option.
Please help.

I have been using Be as they are clear that they don't do traffic management.

Also Be has had a great service ,but my actual connection speed has dropped from 17M to 8 M to 4M. And BeBox keeps getting unstable and they wouldn't give me a new one despite I have requested a few times, they always ended give me a Bebox sofeware upgrade...

Yes just checked their website and O2 does have traffic management even for unlimited user, but the restriction is not too heavy on unlimited user.

http://broadband.o2.co.uk/home/trafficmanagement.jsp#

What's the real benifit for a real FTTP ISP ? BT infinity is in your list and I have just
done estimate with BT Infinity ,it's about 6.5 M to 8M, see below:

BT Total BroadbandYou can get our fast and reliable broadband with speeds of up to 8Mb. The speed prediction we have provided is an estimate, however download speeds can vary and the actual download speed will fall between a range. This is generally within 1-2 Mb higher or lower than your estimated speed quoted Between 6.5Mb and 8.0Mb.

In reply to a post by john2007:

Are Sky and O2 LLU? If either aren't LLU you would be wise to remove them as a choice.

See http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search for the LLU operators at you exchange.

o2? they A , no longer sell the old UNLIMITED plan all are subjects to some caps & shaping, and you would be moving back to the service that you previously had more or less , pointless really, as for sky if you really want your line fully LLU'd phone & adsl and are fully aware of the pitfalls of such a service, then fine

In reply to a post by Gob00st:

BT Total BroadbandYou can get our fast and reliable broadband with speeds of up to 8Mb.

Where did you get that quote? Doesn't sound like Infinity; just ordinary ADSL BB and then only ADSL Max.

Did you try "Check your speed" here: http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProduc... ?

In reply to a post by Gob00st:

Requirement is simple :I am quite a heavy internet user /downloader. Also I require stable connection. A wired connection might be good. BeBox does provide that option.
Please help.

I have been using Be as they are clear that they don't do traffic management.

Also Be has had a great service ,but my actual connection speed has dropped from 17M to 8 M to 4M. And BeBox keeps getting unstable and they wouldn't give me a new one despite I have requested a few times, they always ended give me a Bebox sofeware upgrade...

If your sync speed had dropped by so much then why wasn't it raised as a line fault with bt openreach by be support ?, the be box routers are not the best router by far, personally i would of got a netgear dg834v4 or gt, sh from flea bay just to see if that made an improvement ,& theres no way that i would of let it lie, or paid them for such a poor service if they refused to treat it as a line fault , AAISP maybe a good choice even if for only a short term if you have a line fault they will get it fixed if it can be fixed

I get the quote from bt inifinity webpage, but from the link you gave, it shows a totally different world, very nice !

31.6Mb download
10.0Mb upload

The price is £26.80 plus a BT line which is a bit more than Be but the speed is better too !

And it looks suitable for me , thanks!

Thanks for the reply. Can u comment on Virgin 30M unlimted ? It doesn't require a phone line.

Check the likely speeds on ADSL here: https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html

If they are very low you may decide that cable is the only viable option (I don't know if Virgin's policies are compatible with your usage pattern, possibly not on the 30Mbps package).

Thanks for the good suggestion, the test result is below.
I am not sure if the ADSL related speed below is ok or slow ?? probably okish?
But it seems it doesn't support WBC FTTC yet !!

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Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial check on your address indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a fixed line speed up to 2Mbps.

Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL Max broadband line speed of 5.5Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 4.5Mbps and 8Mbps.

Our check also indicates that your line currently supports an estimated ADSL2+ broadband line speed of 8Mbps; typically the line speed would range between 5.5Mbps and 12.5Mbps. Our test also indicates that your line could support an estimated ADSL 2+ Annex-M broadband upstream line speed of 1Mbps and downstream line speed of 8Mbps; typically the downstream speed would range between 5.5Mbps and 12.5Mbps.

Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2011.
Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 31.6 Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.6 Mbps.

Also is there a way/link to test the Cable estimated speed (with Virgin)?

Thanks

O2 is the same as Be* there on the same network, i was with the for 3 years and after loosing 5Mbits decided to go else where, i chose virginmedia 50Mbit and really wish i had not, gaming is awful iplayer and other streaming video.

what ever you decide AVOID Virginmedia, 9 months of connection 9 months of problems

Holy , really ?
I was checking the Virgin media cable subform here and the review is generally ok.
What was your problem with 50M unlimited ?

I think it's due to Bebox natually wore out,it shutdown automatically as well...
I am sure if I get a new BeBox I probably be ok but they just won't give me !!!

Would you please advise me why Virgin media is horrible ?
Speed poor/ununstable, modern unstable, customer service horrible ?
Please advise, thanks.

In reply to a post by Gob00st:

Thanks for the good suggestion, the test result is below.
I am not sure if the ADSL related speed below is ok or slow ?? probably okish?
But it seems it doesn't support WBC FTTC yet !!

It says that it does here:

Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 31.6 Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.6 Mbps.

No caps any more, just traffic management on the top 2 packages

Which BeBox do you have?

If a 716G or 780WL, they will replace without question and you get to keep the old router

It's is also normally part of BE's standard troubleshooting procedures for line issues (which it looks as if you may have) to send a replacement BEBox even if you have the newer 585v7

Would suggest posting to the official BE forums as a start?

Are you wired or wireless?

Virgin varies greatly from area to area and if a gamer then jitter/latency is generally worse than the likes of Sky/Be

The modem - superhub, if you run it in its modem mode and use your own router is sufficient, but a lot of peoples problems are possibly linked to that device not being the best gateway

Customer Service - fairly standard from what I've seen people post, i.e. nothing special

On the VM 30Meg service, do read their FUP/AUP for the trigger levels at which they slow down upload and downloads.

I think it's probably 780WL. I was using wire. I have called at least 3 times over a year, never a replacement...

Raise a ticket asking for a replacement

If a 780WL, it WILL be replaced as it will not work when migrated onto the new BE network next year
http://beusergroup.co.uk/technotes/index.php?title=N...