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Standard User bizzyliz
(newbie) Thu 26-Apr-07 10:37:56
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Scotdsl - anyone got a comment


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I have just been reading about Scotdsl and their 15.95 unlimited package. Does anyone know of them or use them?

Good, bad or indifferent?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 26-Apr-07 10:53:37
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From a search on this site, yours is the only post to mention them in the last 6 months.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 26-Apr-07 11:29:53
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Re: Scotdsl - anyone got a comment


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Two ISPs come to mind here, looking at what Scotdsl are offering (although Scotdsl are offering the same far cheaper)
One of them was EvolutionDSL.....went to the wall
Another of them was Aceinternet, who had to eat a lot of humble pie when it was forced to introduce caps, when it was found out to be offering an unsustainable product (at over twice the price od Scotdsl)
In other words, i wouldnt touch Scotdsl with a bargepole

HTH

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Standard User terrorvis
(learned) Thu 26-Apr-07 12:32:36
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They seem to be a reseller/ vISP of www.njpservices.com which I personally haven't come across either.

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Standard User Gold_Shogun
(knowledge is power) Thu 26-Apr-07 12:55:22
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Hmmm, never heard of them before, & I'm only about 35 miles from Elgin & am in the High Street quite regularly.

I also note the Quoted Company Details & Contact Address is :-
ScotDSL, 1st Floor, 25a High Street, Elgin ,Moray, IV30 1EE
(which IIRC is one of a number of small offices above a couple of lock-up shops, but I'll take a closer look next time I'm in Elgin.)

However, In the Company T&C, the Quoted Company Details are :-
NJP Services Ltd, 61 London Road, Blackwater, Camberley, Surrey, GU17 0AB
&
Clause 19.1 of the T&C specifies the contract shall be governed under English Law in the English Courts, which could potentially make life more awkward for any Scots customers assuming they were dealing with a Primarily Scottish Company.

They have to be a reseller of some sort, as there is certainly no such local outfit running their own resources & centrals that I've ever heard of.

I am also a "little suspect" of the commonly used sweetener for gaining referrals (a typical "signup enough friends and get your monthly subscription for free" offer), especially when combined with the claimed ultra-cheap prices and totally unlimited bandwidth supposedly being offered ..... See T&C Clause 14.8

You should also read the terms and conditions! here's a few snippets:

1.14 "Exit Fee" means that in the event that you wish to move providers or cancel the service provided to you, within the first 12 months you will be liable to pay a fee equivalent to the connection fee that you would have paid if the service had not been offered with free connection. These fees are currently


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(Unregistered)Thu 26-Apr-07 13:56:10
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Hey, what harm has the ' key done you recently?
Standard User twosat
(regular) Thu 26-Apr-07 15:01:16
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In reply to:

* Download speed up to 8Mb
* Upload speed up to 448Kb
* Free connection and migration
* Unlimited bandwidth (No download limits)
* No caps
* No restrictions
* No port throttling
* No fair usage policy
* No minimum contract
* 10MB web space
* 5 email addresses
* Quick and easy to install
* Easy monthly payments. No hidden extras.



It all looks far too good to be true. Bold statements "No caps" and "No restrictions", alway ring alarm bells with me...

Standard User bizzyliz
(newbie) Thu 26-Apr-07 23:00:32
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I am glad I am not the only cautious person around. I was kind of unbelieving when I read the offer which is why I asked for comments.

Notice that no Scotdsl user replied - are there any? Most likely they havent found this site - one of my regular visits when online.

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Standard User twosat
(regular) Fri 27-Apr-07 00:25:38
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It doesnt mean that if you signed up with them, they wouldn't provide you with a half decent service, for all we know they might.

I did read somewhere that companies like EurISP and Entanet dont impose usage limits as such on re-sellers such as Fast4, V21(the new one) and ScotDSL, and that's why they can claim to have such liberal usage policies.

Im pretty sure that if someone actually decided to test this and clock up something like 2-3 terrabytes in a month, they would have something to say about it.

Edited by twosat (Fri 27-Apr-07 00:27:06)

Standard User AceInternet
(experienced) Fri 27-Apr-07 10:53:58
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There also seems to be a dispute at the moment between NJP Services Ltd and Pulse 8 Internet:

Heres the clue:

http://www.njpservices.co.uk/
http://www.pulse8internet.com/

It has been discussed here:

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/showthread.php?p=179078#post179078

Steve

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