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Standard User Cheesy
(regular) Thu 10-Sep-09 15:56:48
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Recommendations for ISP on exchange CMRUGB


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Afternoon, I am moving away from Nildram. I already have my MAC Code! Can anyone suggest a low latency gaming ISP?

Currently paying £24pcm for an ADSL2+ service. Ideally would like 16mb/2.5mb enhanced upload.
Currently my household has four users of which two of us are gamers with a need for low ping. The other two users are facebook/ internet browsing users.

None of us are big downloaders, but I like to host game servers every so often for private use (clan games).

We rarely hit 30Gb a month in download useage. I would prefer a ISP which does not traffic shape, throttle and has the option to turn interleaving off/on.

I have an Annex M Router (billion) with QoS. My line length is 1181 metres. Attenuation is 20.7db


Any recommendations?

Many thanks

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-Sep-09 16:05:18
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Re: Recommendations for ISP on exchange CMRUGB


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As you have C&W LLU I can suggest Xilo.net I am with them, great pings, no caps, no limitations on downloads (I used 140GB last month on my 2mb line) and only £14.99+VAT a month (£17.24).

Customer service is great and although it states up Pro 16 H you will get up to 24mb if you exchange supports it, I'm online gaming most nights, no problems with pings whatsoever.

Because they are LLU, so no IP profiling either, you'll go as fast as you can each time your router connects, there is a one off activation fee of £40.

I know there isn't many reviews out there of them & that was one of my concerns before signing up, but since going over to them 10/10!

The only trouble may be the 2.5mb upload required, although I think you will get 1.3mb as standard you'd have to ask them direct whether they could provide this extra allowance?

If you've any questions click on the link at the top right hand side of the page to connect to someone there for any questions.

Hope this helps!

Edited by deleted (Thu 10-Sep-09 16:07:17)

Standard User Cheesy
(regular) Thu 10-Sep-09 16:54:02
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thanks Ben, i have been in contact with Xilo. I have not confirmed yet, but the enhanced upload is about 40pcm . What are pings like in the games you play?

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Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Thu 10-Sep-09 16:55:13
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Be Pro.

Currently with a reduced minimum term of 9 months (though you can pay more for a 3-month one, and £75 cashback available from TopCashBack. So a total first 12 month cost of £183 = £15.25pm.

Full details of the costing in the up-to-date stand-alone Page 4 here.

You can easily have interleaving switched off by support. You can do it yourself via your control panel but the support way gets a further error checking system turned off as well so is even better.

You can also have your target noise margin reduced to 3dB if it is stable enough, which I expect on that attenuation it will be. That should counter the loss of download due to Annex M.

No email service.

Direct comparison.

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Standard User vivaciti
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 10-Sep-09 16:55:24
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Hi,
If you require the higher upload, I think your best option is going to be with bethere, you can get it cheaper with O2 (same network, different prices) but with O2 you would have trouble getting fastpath enabled, so bethere would be your best bet on their top service as that will give you the 2.5MB upload speed (if you could do with 1.3MB upload, then you could look at us smile)

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-Sep-09 17:05:40
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Pings are good, you will get the same pings with Vivaciti as in effect they route through the same C&W network, only difference being the price.

I can ping various servers when I get back and post but I regularly achieve pings of 16-30 in l4d and cod to UK servers. When I see what you were using the connection for that's why I thought I'd let you know about Xilo.

Will ping a couple of servers when I get back.

Edited by deleted (Thu 10-Sep-09 18:33:47)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 10-Sep-09 18:36:09
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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Ben>ping jolt.co.uk

Pinging jolt.co.uk [84.234.17.86] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=116
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=116
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=116
Reply from 84.234.17.86: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=116

Ping statistics for 84.234.17.86:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Users\Ben>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.224.138] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=120
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=120
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=120
Reply from 212.58.224.138: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=120

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.138:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 19ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Users\Ben>ping google.co.uk

Pinging google.co.uk [74.125.77.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.77.104: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=45
Reply from 74.125.77.104: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=45
Reply from 74.125.77.104: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=45
Reply from 74.125.77.104: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=45

Ping statistics for 74.125.77.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 31ms, Average = 30ms


If you've got anything in particular you want me to ping let me know.
Standard User Cheesy
(regular) Fri 11-Sep-09 10:48:30
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Thank you benbird7, those pings were useful for comparison to my current Nildram connection with fastpath. You play the same games as me smile

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Standard User Cheesy
(regular) Fri 11-Sep-09 10:50:45
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Thank you RobertoS,

Can you ping google.co.uk and jolt.co.uk for me please and post the results? It would be fully appreciated.

Thanks

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 11-Sep-09 11:02:19
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I've just done some for you as well..

pob:~ $ ping jolt.co.uk
PING jolt.co.uk (84.234.17.86): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 84.234.17.86: icmp_seq=0 ttl=116 time=16.256 ms
64 bytes from 84.234.17.86: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=16.050 ms
64 bytes from 84.234.17.86: icmp_seq=2 ttl=116 time=15.741 ms
64 bytes from 84.234.17.86: icmp_seq=3 ttl=116 time=15.046 ms
^C
--- jolt.co.uk ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

pob:~ $ ping bbc.co.uk
PING bbc.co.uk (212.58.224.138): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=0 ttl=118 time=14.787 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=1 ttl=118 time=15.604 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=2 ttl=118 time=15.873 ms
64 bytes from 212.58.224.138: icmp_seq=3 ttl=118 time=14.544 ms
^C
--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss

Location will give varying results so they do appear marginally better than Ben's.

Matt
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