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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Jun-11 15:50:25
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Their website is a bit confusing.
Can you be a little more specific please?

1)Do you have just one line?
2)How much do you pay to them monthly and for what speeds & capacity? Which package do you have

Are they good?
Many thanks
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 06-Jun-11 16:07:57
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Assuming the tooway thing isn't exactly what you have in mind, but is the only suggestion so far that does what you asked for, I think you will find Be Home Phone is the lowest rental around. That's if you are happy with the Be Pro broadband.

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Standard User nredwood
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 06-Jun-11 17:02:45
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BE do basic Landline for £10 per month

https://www.bethere.co.uk/be-portal/files/03588_BEpr...

For DSL in the UK you need a phone line

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-Jun-11 18:14:03
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Have a look here, I use BT for line rental and calls, so don't know how good or bad the others are.
Shouldn't matter too much if all you want is a basic line rental contract.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 06-Jun-11 18:47:19
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1) One line.
2) £12 a month (including VAT) for the line rental (see below for total).

This is not the cheapest. As others have said, Be might be your better option. I went with A&A only because I had specific requirements that Be can't fulfil (like IPv6).

A&A are more a niche/business ISP, and I've had no issues with them at all. It is, as they say, no frills broadband, literally.

I am currently being charged for:

* Line Rental - £10.
* Broadband on a 21CN connection - £10.17
* 2 base units of bandwidth allowance per month - £6.00

VAT for the above is: £5.23

Total per month: £31.40

You will always have to pay something for line rental, as this is the physical medium your broadband works over. There's no getting out of that one.

The bonus in my setup is, however, I do not have to deal with BT for any line fault. That is purely dealt with by A&A (who pass the buck to BT). Suits me down the ground, as I honestly have no interest in speaking with BT (personal preference).

Regarding units, they meter this differently depending on time of day. Further information about that is on their site.

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(Unregistered)Mon 06-Jun-11 20:13:13
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It is possible and is called Naked Dsl but BT would not want it to happen, the share price would probably collapse if it went down that road. One of the directors of BT a few years ago claimed there is not a big demand for naked dsl - they obviously never asked their customers the simple question, would you like to pay for a broadband line only and not a voice/data line.
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(moderator) Mon 06-Jun-11 20:18:21
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
...would you like to pay for a broadband line only and not a voice/data line.
Would you care to explain the difference between the two types of line?

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Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Tue 07-Jun-11 08:25:06
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So, a question for you.

If, say, phone line rental was £10 and you broadband was £15 would that be any different to getting "naked DSL" with a bill of £25? That is the most likely scenario if naked DSL was allowed - the line and support of the line still have to be paid for no matter whether you call it phone line rental or naked DSL.

As another has said BT make most of their profits through the calls on lines and therefore it is little cheaper (and perhaps more expensive) if this component is removed.
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(Unregistered)Tue 07-Jun-11 09:26:50
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It could be cheaper than that. If there's no PSTN service provided over the copper pair, only ADSL that's one less connection to one less box in the exchange. That connection to provide PSTN services clearly has non-zero cost, even if it's not actively used.
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(staff) Tue 07-Jun-11 09:46:33
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The 48V DC still needs to be maintained on the line (dry pairs were found to be easily re-used at cabinets when fixing other lines).

Non-zero cost to connect the PSTN side up, correct, but it is believed to be marginal.

BTW there are firms providing line rental at what appears below cost in the WLR world, but name escapes me - Utility Warehouse may be the one.

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