Maybe he got used to it for safety in China.

Im not sure this Anon, the OP and PatTang aren't the same person .... There is of course at least one helpful Anon in the thread, but who knows. It's are always a pain when people post anonymously in anything but the simplest thread.

Perhaps the time has come for "the management" to remove the ability of unregistered persons to post to threads. To me, the current set-up seems to be abnormal and prone to abuse . . .

But I'm a GOM, so ....

. . you're just like the b*cat.

In reply to a post by Netizen:

Hello,

I have been away from the DSL market for a long period of time so I am not sure if something like this actually exists:
I am looking for a provider that will supply ONLY internet on the line. I do not need a landline package. Just plain internet on good speeds.
Is there such a beast?

Many thanks
N

Hi, you say; I am looking for a provider that will supply ONLY internet on the line. I do not need a landline package.

You got to have a landline, copper or fibre, if you want high speed broadband.
If you do not want the phone, bin it! Job done. These days they don't supply a phone anyhow.

The trouble is that nearly all CPs now bundle in an E/W call package. I realise that costs peanuts to them, but you can be sure a profit arises from it. I.e. the pure rental price could be lower. I haven't looked for the current OR line rental price, to compare with the BTW and Retail pricing, so not sure how much could be shaved off the consumer cost.

The Be line rental price looks interesting, but I expect even in that there is a contribution to the OR ADSL line rental.

In reply to a post by Netizen:

I am not dreaming.

I mentioned I've been away from the DSL market simply because I was abroad in another European country which does what I asked via normal telephone lines (not cable).
The setup is normal ADSL (as we know it) however if you connect a phone to the splitter you hear nothing. Cost wise is cheaper than having the phone line as well.

The interesting bit is that the provider that offers that is NOT the last mile owner.

An alternative in my case here would be via cable, however Virgin is not economical if you take internet only without line.

Hi, in the daytime, I use my mobile to make calls to landlines, which is free, in the evenings and at weekends; I use my landline phone, which is free. So directly I don�t pay for any phone calls, be versatile.

http://shop.orange.co.uk/broadband/compare-all/

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

not sure on coverage, that was rolled out in Guangxi couple of years ago.
Went in paid 900rmb over the counter, man next day arrived chucked a LAN cable threw my window and off he went.
No bills, no agro done and dusted.
Come back here and i just started to look for isp and its making me feel sick.

It may cost more here but at least you got more freedom to say what you want, look at what you and want and not have to worry about the great Firewall of China

If it was not for my internet I would not have a phone line to be honest, now I got a mobile phone contract I hardly use my landline.

Sadly the only thing you can do is get a cheap line rental deal.

I am using first telecom just for my landline, cheaper than BT and does the job.

I'm an English guy living in Thailand. Was a customer of Claranet, Demon, Plusnet and Zen in the UK.

I paid 70 quid for 6 months access over here.

It was 10 pounds the install (same day!), and 10 pounds PM paid upfront for the line.

They lashed the Co-ax cable towards the building, brought it in to the premises and terminated it onto a small - Korean made (LS networks) - Cable modem.

I've have 4Mbs/512Kbs but could have paid more for 20Mbs... the line is totally unmetered / fast all the time.

I'm about 1Km from the providers shop (thay have the shop downstairs and the networking gear upstairs). From their shop; it's Fibre all the way to the National Internet Exchange building.

In some others Asian countries; If you're close enough to the ISP's routers, they'll even lash a cat5e cable into your building and rent you line-speed ethernet network access for around $100 PM.

IMHO; there's much more common sense thinking and a "get things done" attitute in Asia than the UK.

George.

That would look great George round a typical suburban housing estate in the UK. It would be a few hundred cables from each supplying shop crawling all over the place.

Might be a bit difficult finding attachment points in suitable places though. And what's the punishment there for vandalism, i.e. cutting a few cables 500m away from their destinations for a bit of fun or because you don't like someone?

Are you talking about domestic premises there, or industrial? If domestic, what proportion of the surrounding buildings have it?

Edit - what's the average income per household - is £10 in local currency a significant figure to the Thai population?
Edit 2 - Ah. In 2010, $4716. How do the rural 68% of the population get on for internet access, including the cabling?

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 16-Jul-11 09:13:00)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The trouble is that nearly all CPs now bundle in an E/W call package. I realise that costs peanuts to them, but you can be sure a profit arises from it. I.e. the pure rental price could be lower. I haven't looked for the current OR line rental price, to compare with the BTW and Retail pricing, so not sure how much could be shaved off the consumer cost.

The Be line rental price looks interesting, but I expect even in that there is a contribution to the OR ADSL line rental.

It could be the telephone line service subsidizes the broadband service, so if a broadband only line was provided it would be more expensive, would that oblige the OP?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

IMHO; there's much more common sense thinking and a "get things done" attitute in Asia than the UK.

George.

I can take the point for trailing cables and vandalism; however as with everything in the global economy pricing should comparable worldwide for the initial kit. For me it comes down to profit before service that western economies aspire for their shareholders and is very much supported by the I'm alright Jack attitude that is rampant in the UK which is quickly becomming, The Roman holiday attidue.